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To the Governing Body
As a rugby league supporter I find your actions (or rather lack of them) with regard to Wakefield Trinity Wildcats a complete and utter disgrace. You, the governing body, of 'the rugby league family' pass off a person (Andrew Glover) as fit and proper to run a rugby league club but then fail to do the paperwork thus making him unable to take control of the club when they need him most. It is now evident that the vultures are circling and picking the bones out of the carcass that is Wakefield Trinity Wildcats. Had the appropriate paperwork been completed then this struggling club would have been able to hold on to their prized assets and at least have a chance of competing with other teams in the league especially if a new owner has funds available for team strengthening. After the undoubted favouritism shown towards expansionist clubs such as Catalans London (Harlequins or whatever they call themselves nowadays) and the shambolic Crusaders you have in my opinion brought our once great game in to disrepute. Wakefield are a founder member club and it appears you are doing your best to destroy them. You along with SKY TV have ruined what our game was once all about, pride integrity and results, these things no longer matter.
Thank you for ruining my appetite of a once great sport.
I do not expect a reply as I suspect the truth hurts and I really don't think you care.
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To the Governing Body
As a rugby league supporter I find your actions (or rather lack of them) with regard to Wakefield Trinity Wildcats a complete and utter disgrace. You, the governing body, of 'the rugby league family' pass off a person (Andrew Glover) as fit and proper to run a rugby league club but then fail to do the paperwork thus making him unable to take control of the club when they need him most. It is now evident that the vultures are circling and picking the bones out of the carcass that is Wakefield Trinity Wildcats. Had the appropriate paperwork been completed then this struggling club would have been able to hold on to their prized assets and at least have a chance of competing with other teams in the league especially if a new owner has funds available for team strengthening. After the undoubted favouritism shown towards expansionist clubs such as Catalans London (Harlequins or whatever they call themselves nowadays) and the shambolic Crusaders you have in my opinion brought our once great game in to disrepute. Wakefield are a founder member club and it appears you are doing your best to destroy them. You along with SKY TV have ruined what our game was once all about, pride integrity and results, these things no longer matter.
Thank you for ruining my appetite of a once great sport.
I do not expect a reply as I suspect the truth hurts and I really don't think you care.
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| Quote: Uptoncat "enquiries@rfl.uk.com
My email
To the Governing Body
As a rugby league supporter I find your actions (or rather lack of them) with regard to Wakefield Trinity Wildcats a complete and utter disgrace. You, the governing body, of 'the rugby league family' pass off a person (Andrew Glover) as fit and proper to run a rugby league club but then fail to do the paperwork thus making him unable to take control of the club when they need him most. It is now evident that the vultures are circling and picking the bones out of the carcass that is Wakefield Trinity Wildcats. Had the appropriate paperwork been completed then this struggling club would have been able to hold on to their prized assets and at least have a chance of competing with other teams in the league especially if a new owner has funds available for team strengthening. After the undoubted favouritism shown towards expansionist clubs such as Catalans London (Harlequins or whatever they call themselves nowadays) and the shambolic Crusaders you have in my opinion brought our once great game in to disrepute. Wakefield are a founder member club and it appears you are doing your best to destroy them. You along with SKY TV have ruined what our game was once all about, pride integrity and results, these things no longer matter.
Thank you for ruining my appetite of a once great sport.
I do not expect a reply as I suspect the truth hurts and I really don't think you care.'"
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| Quote: Uptoncat "enquiries@rfl.uk.com
My email
To the Governing Body
As a rugby league supporter I find your actions (or rather lack of them) with regard to Wakefield Trinity Wildcats a complete and utter disgrace. You, the governing body, of 'the rugby league family' pass off a person (Andrew Glover) as fit and proper to run a rugby league club but then fail to do the paperwork thus making him unable to take control of the club when they need him most. It is now evident that the vultures are circling and picking the bones out of the carcass that is Wakefield Trinity Wildcats. Had the appropriate paperwork been completed then this struggling club would have been able to hold on to their prized assets and at least have a chance of competing with other teams in the league especially if a new owner has funds available for team strengthening. After the undoubted favouritism shown towards expansionist clubs such as Catalans London (Harlequins or whatever they call themselves nowadays) and the shambolic Crusaders you have in my opinion brought our once great game in to disrepute. Wakefield are a founder member club and it appears you are doing your best to destroy them. You along with SKY TV have ruined what our game was once all about, pride integrity and results, these things no longer matter.
Thank you for ruining my appetite of a once great sport.
I do not expect a reply as I suspect the truth hurts and I really don't think you care.'"
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| Sent mine in.
Don't expect it to make a blind bit of difference or for them to respond, too busy trying to be unavailable to meet to sign off Mr Glover as fit and proper
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| Added mine too.
Doubt it'll even be read by them, tbh, but it made me feel slightly better to vent.
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am writing to you to register my absolute disgust at your treatment of the Wakefield Trinity Wildcats. As it was announced on Friday by both Andrew Glover of West Yorkshire Windows, and the administrators themselves, O'Hara, that a deal had been concluded subject to a "fit and proper persons" test being signed off. Now since this test had been passed by Andrew Glover prior to his sale agreement with the administrators I, and mnay other rugby league fans, would be very interested to hear the cause of the delay in getting this deal signed off.
Comparing these events to the administration of Celtic Crusaders, it is impossible to conclude that there is anything at work other than favouritism. Not only have you outright denied WTWRLFC any help at all, you seem to have actively obstructed the sale process by ensuring it takes as long as possible. And your delays have allowed the administrators to sell off prize players - at the latest count three players have been sold and the Head of the Community department has also had to leave to take up a post elsewhere.
Now, considering that the Crusaders' debt was much larger than WTWRLFC's, and since we have repaid some of our debt by selling off players and have not had to take a loan from yourselves, I can only conclude that our points deduction will be much smaller than the Crusaders' and that the administration will count against us much less in the franchise application. I presume that this logic is not lost on you, as it is basic common sense. However, comsidering your actions and the way that they have aided in the dismemberment of the club, I can only conclude that your plan all along has been to deal as much damage to the club as possible, by simple result of your inaction.
I attended Millennium Magic this weekend, and found it to be an overall extremely enjoyable occasion. The worst part, however, was watching the match between Catalans Dragons and Harlequins. This was a game that really captured the imagination and interest of the crowd gathered within the stadium, as most (myself included) discovered that it was more interesting to wander aimlessly around cardiff than to watch this game. Still, at least the numerous fans from Harlequins and Catalans enjoyed their time and created a carnival atmosphere. I presume that is what they were doing sat around at home, as they were certainly nowhere to be seen in the stadium. Whilst I do not disagree with expansion as an idea, I would like to wish you the luck that you will so obviously need in bringing your plans to fruition - when 50% of the fixtures of each round are played out in a sterile atmosphere, with only home fans present, you shall be able ot sit back and admire the progress you have brought about.
It is truly ridiculous to see the noble game of rugby league robbed of all integrity. It was once a great sport for honest folk, but it seems it will sadly die as slow and painful a death as the Wakefield Wildcats are now enduring.
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6731_1299024498.jpg [quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| That's absolutely embarrassing. The fact that your club is in the mire is nothing to do with any expansion clubs or the RFL and everything to do with the inept management of your club over the past few years. The fact that you have felt the need to blame expansion clubs is quite honestly a disgrace. Look in the mirror guys. I realise your current situation is not the fault of the fans, but sending error-strewn paranoid anti-expansion BS to the RFL isn't going to win you any sympathy from anyone.
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| Quote: headhunter "That's absolutely embarrassing. The fact that your club is in the mire is nothing to do with any expansion clubs or the RFL and everything to do with the inept management of your club over the past few years. The fact that you have felt the need to blame expansion clubs is quite honestly a disgrace. Look in the mirror guys. I realise your current situation is not the fault of the fans, but sending error-strewn paranoid anti-expansion BS to the RFL isn't going to win you any sympathy from anyone.'"
No-one's 'blaming' the expansion clubs, rather, they're pointing out the blatant differences in the way expansion clubs are treated; the attack on the RFL is based on the fact that they could have dealt with Mr Glovers fit and proper person application as a priority issue, so he could conclude the deal with O'Hara's, thus avoiding the 'fire sale' that has ensued.
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| Quote: headhunter "That's absolutely embarrassing. The fact that your club is in the mire is nothing to do with any expansion clubs or the RFL and everything to do with the inept management of your club over the past few years. The fact that you have felt the need to blame expansion clubs is quite honestly a disgrace. Look in the mirror guys. I realise your current situation is not the fault of the fans, but sending error-strewn paranoid anti-expansion BS to the RFL isn't going to win you any sympathy from anyone.'"
Did you read what people of wrote, nobody blames expansionist clubs for Wakey's problems, that's firmly at the toes of Ted and you would know that if you read through the threads, there might be the odd one or two who say stupid things, but hey every clubs got those. But if you can't see how the RFL have done everything in their power to make sure you come out of the administration process, then there's no point. The RFL sent a team of guys down to help you through your problems, what have they done for Trinity, nothing. All they had to do is sign off on the 'fit and proper' forms for the new owner, but that's been delayed. Do you honestly think if Trinity still owned their stadium the RFL would have loaned us the money that they did you? At the end of the day the owners and directors of Trinity have ruined this club with mismanagement and poor business sense, end of.
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6731_1299024498.jpg [quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: Shifty Cat "Did you read what people of wrote, nobody blames expansionist clubs for Wakey's problems, that's firmly at the toes of Ted and you would know that if you read through the threads, there might be the odd one or two who say stupid things, but hey every clubs got those. But if you can't see how the RFL have done everything in their power to make sure you come out of the administration process, then there's no point. The RFL sent a team of guys down to help you through your problems, what have they done for Trinity, nothing. All they had to do is sign off on the 'fit and proper' forms for the new owner, but that's been delayed. Do you honestly think if Trinity still owned their stadium the RFL would have loaned us the money that they did you? At the end of the day the owners and directors of Trinity have ruined this club with mismanagement and poor business sense, end of.'" I appreciate you are upset, but why bring any other clubs into this? I'm not aware of the RFL lending money to anyone but each case of administration is different, and when people start making up lies about other clubs having 'far bigger' debts it doesn't achieve anything. I know it's an easy target to blame expansion clubs since they are the new guys and you might feel that they are invading and pushing you out, but really it's a pretty childish attitude to take. Despite what people might think, nobody wants to see any clubs go to the wall. The fact is that your club is obviously in serious financial trouble and in its current form is untenable. Crusaders were not in serious trouble, they entered administration for a brief period to manage debts from a previous regime, they were not looking for a new owner and were able to carry on trading through that time. This clearly isn't the case for Wakey. Crusaders suffered the punishment and lost a star player as a result, it's not as if they got off lightly in any way. And for the person who brought Harlequins and Catalans into it, that was just pathetic and uncalled for. I'm not a Crusaders fan FWIW. Just a well-wisher of the game.
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| Quote: headhunter "I'm not aware of the RFL lending money to anyone<snip>'"
Then you're not aware of all the facts that pertain to what's being discussed and as such, shoud probably keep your gob shut; apart from maybe apologising for your previous post.
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| Quote: "It is now evident that the vultures are circling and picking the bones out of the carcass that is Wakefield Trinity Wildcats.'"
Isn't this what you were guilty of when you signed Grix, Blanch and Wilkes from Widnes in 2007?
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| Quote: Chris B "Isn't this what you were guilty of when you signed Grix, Blanch and Wilkes from Widnes in 2007?'" yes we was,
amazing how crap it feels when it happens to you
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| Quote: Chris B "Isn't this what you were guilty of when you signed Grix, Blanch and Wilkes from Widnes in 2007?'"
Wasnt this at the end of the season though and not after the first game?
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| Quote: headhunter "I appreciate you are upset, but why bring any other clubs into this? I'm not aware of the RFL lending money to anyone but each case of administration is different, and when people start making up lies about other clubs having 'far bigger' debts it doesn't achieve anything. I know it's an easy target to blame expansion clubs since they are the new guys and you might feel that they are invading and pushing you out, but really it's a pretty childish attitude to take. Despite what people might think, nobody wants to see any clubs go to the wall. The fact is that your club is obviously in serious financial trouble and in its current form is untenable. Crusaders were not in serious trouble, they entered administration for a brief period to manage debts from a previous regime, they were not looking for a new owner and were able to carry on trading through that time. This clearly isn't the case for Wakey. Crusaders suffered the punishment and lost a star player as a result, it's not as if they got off lightly in any way. And for the person who brought Harlequins and Catalans into it, that was just pathetic and uncalled for. I'm not a Crusaders fan FWIW. Just a well-wisher of the game.'"
Sorry but your talking crap. If Crusaders were not in serious trouble how did they manage to rack up debts of over 2m including 700k to the RFL for assistance they gave them (which has subsequently being converted into what appears to be an interest free loan which effectively guarantees their SL future). I am sure that their creditors could have received a far better deal had O'haras sold Witt, Sammut and Withers to name a few.
The club has effectively had 3 different identities in 3 years and is now only just outside the RL heartlands.
We all accept Ted Richardson has brought us to our knees, but the RFL with their blatant double standards appear determined to strike the final blow.
So say what you like, but I and many others are entitled to be annoyed about the favouritism to a club that has been around for less than 10 years, whilst one over 130 years old is left to rot
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| Quote: Chris B "Isn't this what you were guilty of when you signed Grix, Blanch and Wilkes from Widnes in 2007?'"
I think the circumstances were different to a certain degree in that you were already in the championship (or whatever it was called at the time) and undoubtedly these players would have left anyway. THe way things are going we are going to be left with a Championship squad trying to compete week in week out in SL and the main reason now appears to be that the RFL can't get their act together and provide written confirmation that the new owner is fit and proper, which is something they had already confirmed verbally.
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