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| He has adopted the current theory of don’t take any responsibility for your errors by passing the blame onto others. The demise of the club is entirely their fault, I don’t remember them asking the supporters for their advice on the club’s strategy on signing’s etc. We all know this is his well trodden fall back position. I am not sure he ever got over having to sack Chester because of supporters pressure.
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| Support the players, support the staff, and when it’s all over, look back and tell yourself that you did absolutely everything you could do to help the club through this period.
This is massive imo. Whether this is our last season in SL or just another bump in the road, fans acting as they are will not help in the slightlest.
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| We are ultimately the ones who pay the wages - either by attending the games or paying for our Sky subscription - and we have the right to complain if the product is defective.
If it was any other business delivering the product we are currently seeing, they would not be in business for much longer.
We have employees of the club who are not performing. In the real world they would be facing the sack. It is a privilege to play sport and get paid for it.
I have supported Wakey for nearly 20 years and on Sunday I just couldn’t be bothered and didn’t care when we lost. I cannot recall ever thinking that before. I had similar feeling last night seeing my football team get annihilated for the second game in a row.
I used to look forward to games and work my life around them. Not any more.
And then we get the comments from the club…..makes me think “ is it all worth it”!
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| I would suggest that those at the top of the club should be telling the fans (their customers), just what they are going to do / are doing to change the dire situation that we are in.
Without a change of direction, we are going to be anchored to the foot of SL and subsequently relegated and it is up the management and coaching staff to tell the fans what we should expect - in essence, they have to manage our expectations.
The situation is that we have played 9, lost 9 and with our next 2 fixtures against the 2 best sides in the comp, this is soon going to be played 11, lost 11 and possibly THE worst aspect is that we are managing a paltry 5 points per game, that's F I V E.
Yes, the situation is better if everyone remains positive but, this is Titanic moment and if someone doesn't shout ICEBERG and the captain of the ship doesn't change course, we are bloody sunk.
I'm all for not panicing but, doing nothing to change our course is not an option.
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| Quote: PopTart "He isn't having a dig at the supporters. He's pointing out that negativity towards the players and staff only makes it worse.
Nothing wrong with voicing opinion, in fact John M often says he welcomes it, but just blank negativity which often comes from some fans is just not helpful.
However, I think he's naive if he thinks this will change it'"
Having a dig is exactly what he’s doing. And whilst he might be right that negativity doesn’t help things there is a way of doing things to help that situation and that isn’t it by a long way. In fact it appears to have further alienated many ‘fans’, including this one. Although i have to say his statement doesn’t surprise one iota.
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| Quote: Sacred Cow "Having a dig is exactly what he’s doing. And whilst he might be right that negativity doesn’t help things there is a way of doing things to help that situation and that isn’t it by a long way. In fact it appears to have further alienated many ‘fans’, including this one. Although i have to say his statement doesn’t surprise one iota.'"
I agree with this. In my career I game across plenty of accountants who didn’t appreciate or understand the customer.
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| I can't believe people are still taken in by his utter contempt for the fans, he as no feelings for the fans, he cares nothing about the club or the fans, if he did he'd do something about the current situation. This bloke is taking the p out of everyone.
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| Negativity.
Prime examples are Kevin Proctor and Renouf Atoni. They are being paid. Fans are not. Their apparent total lack of effort and interest, time on the field of play, has a negative effect on people’s attitudes.
17 players giving 100% and losing shows fans players are giving effort and creates a positive memory.
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| Quote: Sacred Cow "Having a dig is exactly what he’s doing. And whilst he might be right that negativity doesn’t help things there is a way of doing things to help that situation and that isn’t it by a long way. In fact it appears to have further alienated many ‘fans’, including this one. Although i have to say his statement doesn’t surprise one iota.'"
Just a couple of points, J M has said he welcomes social media interactions with the fans But will Not respond to online Abuse, you can’t blame anyone but the abusers for that. I honestly believe he will listen to constructive criticism but not abuse.
Hull FC owner has also made a public plea for the Hull fans to get behind and support his club during their current crisis,, I’m not sure if he received the same amount of abuse from the Hull fans as Some Trinity fans dish out to MC and JM. Perhaps the Hull fans are a more tolerant lot.
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| We the supporters must stop being negative about all aspects of the club and accept what we are given without question because to not do so is tantamount to treason. It is a shame he does not adopt the same standards when he writes or speaks about us, we are not an inconvenience we will still be paying our money long after he leaves.
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| Hard not to be negative about a side that’s set a SL record for nillings.
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| Nine games in!
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| Am i missing something? Get behind the club and players ,support them, we're all in this together ,then with our worst squad & superleague start in living memory. An announcement which coulld have been sat on for the sake of club stability. "i'm off" we're all in it together are we mr carter? Your contempt for the fans is recipricated pal. But i will say its a shame for you, but even worse for the fans the legacy you look like leaving
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| Quote: PopTart "He isn't having a dig at the supporters. He's pointing out that negativity towards the players and staff only makes it worse.
Nothing wrong with voicing opinion, in fact John M often says he welcomes it, but just blank negativity which often comes from some fans is just not helpful.
However, I think he's naive if he thinks this will change it'"
Of course he's having a dig. It's one of those snide, below the belt ones, which it's not the first time he's lashed out at fans like this.
Like Mopsey, I can't believe people are still taken in by him. He doesn't pull the wool over my eyes.
He's alienating so many fans right now, I've heard several, long term fans saying they're not going until he's gone, which does nothing to help, but at the same time, neither does his poor attitude to supporters.
I've said it time and time again, no person is bigger than the club, its colours or badge. Not even a self confessed messiah that he believes he is.
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| Quote: Eastern Wildcat "Of course he's having a dig. It's one of those snide, below the belt ones, which it's not the first time he's lashed out at fans like this.
Like Mopsey, I can't believe people are still taken in by him. He doesn't pull the wool over my eyes.
He's alienating so many fans right now, I've heard several, long term fans saying they're not going until he's gone, which does nothing to help, but at the same time, neither does his poor attitude to supporters.
I've said it time and time again, no person is bigger than the club, its colours or badge. Not even a self confessed messiah that he believes he is.'"
What colours RWB or the thing we have this year, which I quite like, but it's not RWB
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