For what its worth Agars super league record with Hull was- won 43,Drawn 1,lost 52 thats 45.3 %

The only reason we signed Aiton was because Morrison had to retire. Would have been nice to have both in the team together

And that is awful with the players he had. I am tired of commenting on Agar. He has no idea, end of story. We looked, for the greater part of most early games this year, a shambles, we still look a shambles and frankly, I can't believe how everyone can't see that. 6 1/2 / 10...you are kidding. We are clueless - and there are some decent players in that squad. For me they just look like a badly drilled bunch of players who don't really believe in what they are doing. Our 6 win haul is below what we should have had by 5 wins for me...the coach is the reason as far as I am concerned. Someone said his contract was 70k a year. HOWWWW the hell did we decide to pay someone with that win ratio at Hull that kind of money? And give him 3 years. I would seriously be looking at negotiating a pay off at the end of the season; this year is nearly as dismal as last year and that is simply nowhere near good enough for the investment made. We need to GET RID!!!! I hate having to say this. I just wanted the whole new era to be possitive, but we look so bad, I just think it has to be said.

Our weekly pathetic defensive display is unacceptable & it sits with the coach.
Yes, once the team runs out he can't do anything, but monday to Saturday at training he can.
And clearly hasn't addressed it. Bizarre interchanges, no ability to do anything to change a game, strange after match comments which always involves some phrase about the positives from the game - even after a shambolic 10-52 defeat.
I for 1 am not impressed

I wonder if people's hold the same view of Agar now as they did only a few weeks ago.

Probably not, but as soon as we next lose they'll be out waving their nooses in the air again.. sigh.

Yes, would be interesting to hear the comments from the more vociferous posters above.

I was never an advocate for Agar's appointment but I always knew it would take time for any coach to build a side from scratch so was prepared to give him time.
Glad its started to come together. More to do but there always will be.

likewise. i really didn't want him, and i felt that his appointment and the interview process was a sham as we all knew that being a pal of james elston's made him hot hot favourite.

stability is the key for any coach, so as soon as he was appointed the key for us was to give him enough time to make his mark. no coach would have done amazing things this year with the ordinary imports that elston brought in and the sheer number of new squad players.

i think he's earned his corn thus far, but i'd like to see us kick on and produce the same intensity for the remaining fixtures as we've done in the last few weeks. i'm not bothered about the results to much and certainly not making the playoffs - i think the top 8 should be the top 5/6, and that no club should be rewarded for finishing in the lower half - realisticaly i'm also not sure that an extra away game at wigan/warrington is much of a reward anyway!

for me, it's all about the performances for the remainder of the season, then the quality of recuitment/retention that we manage in the off season.

i'd like us to retain morrison, i think he has good communication skills and interacts well with the squad. for me, agar has some good ideas and strategies but he comes over as somebody that struggles to share his message.

What makes you say that?

it's been said to me by a couple of people who worked with him at hull. no leaks from belle vue on this one. also, the way he speaks on tv/press conferences; he clearly knows the game backwards and what he wants us to do, but he comes accross as quite a dull and limited communicator generally. i don't look and him and think; he could inspire and talk on the level easily with a load of young daft rugby league players.

I would agree he is not a John Kear type that is very media friendly but I don't think that limits his communication to his players.
I know a few guys who have worked with him previously and they liked him. I've talkedto him myself and he is clearly not the old fashioned ex player who hada go at coaching and din't realise its a different job. He is an intelliegent guy who is developing his career. He isn't the finished article by a long way but I hope he gets there with us.

Funny, as I've spoken with him directly - he comes across as articulate, intelligent and totally obsessive about the game; he has his own theories about why he doesn't feature much in the media and seems pretty happy not to do so.

I've also spoken to several players, all of whom were very positive about him.

Not very scientific I know, but useful for balance?

Yes, and I liked PopTart's post too. I hope he has massive success at Wakefield.

Not true, Aiton was top of Agars list and it had nothing to do with Morrison. Also one a hooker and the others a S/R. If Morrison had a replacement I'd guess it was Southern.

I have to repent here and admit I was wrong about the guy. His faith in the players he kept picking has certainly paid of for him. He put together the foundations of a half decent mid table team, while playing some real attractive rugby. All on a limited budget. With a bit of tinkering here and there I think we could be a team to challenge for the top 7 next year, year on year progression! This is one time I’m very happy to be proved wrong!