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| Quote: KevW60349 "Well said.'"
He has made many promises in the past like "vote blue go green", I will reduce immigration to the 10's of thousands you can be certain. These were just two he made but did not honour. The vote was never intended to take place, he did not expect to win the election and would of blamed his coalition partners for not allowing him to honour this.
He unfortunately won and had painted himself into a corner so a referendum had to take place. To make it worse he presided over one of the worst campaigns I have ever come across.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "He has made many promises in the past like "vote blue go green", I will reduce immigration to the 10's of thousands you can be certain. These were just two he made but did not honour. The vote was never intended to take place, he did not expect to win the election and would of blamed his coalition partners for not allowing him to honour this.
He unfortunately won and had painted himself into a corner so a referendum had to take place. To make it worse he presided over one of the worst campaigns I have ever come across.'"
But my question still stands, should the country have been forced into staying within the EU against its will.
Withholding a referendum from the country would have done that.
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| Who would of eve thought the lower orders would refuse to be talked down to.
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| Quote: deeHell "
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Ironic.
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| Quote: deeHell "Who would of eve thought the lower orders would be so easily lied to.
Edited for accuracy.
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| Can't believe some of the subliminal snobbery on this thread since brexit won. Some of you sound like the metropolitan elite that are sulking in London. I would bet good money that the the bulk of the pro europe brigade on this thread don't have to make their living in the real world. Most will work for the local authority or be employed by the government in some capacity . The power base in this country has been centralised in London for far too long and they've been given a bloody nose by the little people . Stop stamping your feet and get on with it - the world hasn't stopped turning.
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| No foot stamping here. Just very sad that some politicians on both sides of the campaign have been so dishonest. I may be slightly biased but I think Cameron and Osborne have stretched the facts or been economical with the truth. Farage, Gove and Johnson on the other hand have told blatant lies. You enjoy your 'victory'. I just hope it doesn't come back and bite the country on the ar5e.
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| Quote: wotsupcas "Can't believe some of the subliminal snobbery on this thread since brexit won. Some of you sound like the metropolitan elite that are sulking in London. I would bet good money that the the bulk of the pro europe brigade on this thread don't have to make their living in the real world. Most will work for the local authority or be employed by the government in some capacity . The power base in this country has been centralised in London for far too long and they've been given a bloody nose by the little people . Stop stamping your feet and get on with it - the world hasn't stopped turning.'"
Exactly, our self perceived intellectual superiors who secretly hate the fact that the lower orders get the vote. The TVs been full of them today apparently the likes of me have been brain washed by the SUN not that I've ever buy the rag. It's beyond there comprehension to see that anyone that does a manual job and hasn't been to university could possibly make such an informed decision.
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| Quote: Kevs Head "No foot stamping here. Just very sad that some politicians on both sides of the campaign have been so dishonest. I may be slightly biased but I think Cameron and Osborne have stretched the facts or been economical with the truth. Farage, Gove and Johnson on the other hand have told blatant lies. You enjoy your 'victory'. I just hope it doesn't come back and bite the country on the ar5e.'"
Come on! I know there was loads of b.s. on both sides but the biggest porky came from remain when they tried to tell us that Turkey wouldn't be joining for nearly 100 years ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](images/smilies//icon_eek.gif) . Yeah right!!!
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| Quote: wotsupcas "Can't believe some of the subliminal snobbery on this thread since brexit won. Some of you sound like the metropolitan elite that are sulking in London. I would bet good money that the the bulk of the pro europe brigade on this thread don't have to make their living in the real world. Most will work for the local authority or be employed by the government in some capacity . The power base in this country has been centralised in London for far too long and they've been given a bloody nose by the little people . Stop stamping your feet and get on with it - the world hasn't stopped turning.'"
Well let's see if those of you 'in the real world' (utter b******s) now put your money where your mouth is and take the country to Utopia. People who voted against leaving (and I believe there were a few million) probably looked at wider issues than immigration ( which seems to have swung it!) - of which there are many, that will affect us now we have left.
I suspect the issues I refer to were probably beyond the comprehension of many of the leave brigade who simply followed the advice of that complete Mr Nobody (and never will be anybody), Nigel Farage.
I am now part time self employed but personally still feel we would have been better off in the EU. My opinion and I lost. I get on with life but resent the tone of your post. You cannot stereotype people like that!
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| Quote: wotsupcas "Come on! I know there was loads of b.s. on both sides but the biggest porky came from remain when they tried to tell us that Turkey wouldn't be joining for nearly 100 years
Can you say for certain that Turkey will or will not join in 1 year or 100 years? No you can't. So it's an opinion, not provable one way or another. Farage lying about the 350 million slogan on his battle bus is a lie. Gove telling us his dad's business went bust because of the EU was a lie. Johnson telling us he supports Brexit when a few months ago he was all in favour of remaining is, probably, a self serving lie. Yes - bs on both sides but absolutely shameless dishonesty on the part of those three.
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| Quote: Trinity1315 "Well let's see if those of you 'in the real world' (utter b******s) now put your money where your mouth is and take the country to Utopia. People who voted against leaving (and I believe there were a few million) probably looked at wider issues than immigration ( which seems to have swung it!) - of which there are many, that will affect us now we have left.
I suspect the issues I refer to were probably beyond the comprehension of many of the leave brigade who simply followed the advice of that complete Mr Nobody (and never will be anybody), Nigel Farage.
I am now part time self employed but personally still feel we would have been better off in the EU. My opinion and I lost. I get on with life but resent the tone of your post. You cannot stereotype people like that!'"
I did say some and most...not all. You are entitled to your opinion as much as I am. Where did I say that it would be utopia? But neither is it going to be hell on earth. Fwiw my main reason for a leave vote was to free myself from an unelected ,corrupt , beaurocratic monster that refused to listen to ordinary people's opinions. It's called democracy
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| Quote: Trinity1315 "Well let's see if those of you 'in the real world' (utter b******s) now put your money where your mouth is and take the country to Utopia. People who voted against leaving (and I believe there were a few million) probably looked at wider issues than immigration ( which seems to have swung it!) - of which there are many, that will affect us now we have left.
I suspect the issues I refer to were probably beyond the comprehension of many of the leave brigade who simply followed the advice of that complete Mr Nobody (and never will be anybody), Nigel Farage.
I am now part time self employed but personally still feel we would have been better off in the EU. My opinion and I lost. I get on with life but resent the tone of your post. You cannot stereotype people like that!'"
There we go again with assumption that Remain voters voted in a more informed way. Basically Leave = Thickos.
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| Quote: Kevs Head "Can you say for certain that Turkey will or will not join in 1 year or 100 years? No you can't. So it's an opinion, not provable one way or another. Farage lying about the 350 million slogan on his battle bus is a lie. Gove telling us his dad's business went bust because of the EU was a lie. Johnson telling us he supports Brexit when a few months ago he was all in favour is, probably, a self serving lie. Yes - bs on both sides but absolutely shameless dishonesty on the part of those three.'"
Why were British civil servants in Turkey at great expense paving their way to joining if it wasn't going to happen for 100 years?
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| Quote: deeHell "There we go again with assumption that Remain voters voted in a more informed way. Basically Leave
I listened to some Leavers this morning. One reason for leaving - our benefits are being cut. Another reason - in Europe they go to university for free, we have to pay here. A third - immigrants get all the council houses.
You tell me whether or not they were more or less informed
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