If I lived next to an old pit on a junction next to the M62 one junction down from M1/M62 interchange I would have expected it to be developed eventually. I live next to unit 41 ind estate (used to be fields) and that is worthwhile its provided me with employment for the last 20 years. Wish it had a stadium thought but hopefully stadium at NM will still happen.

Green belt?

But isn't the Newmarket site now designated for B8 warehousing irrespective of the stadium so it will be covered in warehouses anyway. The Newmarket inquiry preceeded the LDF inquiry by a matter of weeks and the site was always going to be taken out of Green Belt irrespective of the Stadium as there was a need for Wakefield MDC to find land for development in the district in order to create much needed job opportunities for the people of Wakefield and surrounding areas.

I will be very disappointed if there is no stadium at Newmarket but at least the site is capable of creating jobs for the district.

I think the words you are looking for is NIMBY.

Nimby hell ye
I think you will find out that no one objected to the stadium ,but the objection were pointing out that there is no stadium and it was all about warehouses,but no you wouldn't listen .
Your point about job's why put a jobs were unemployement is the lowest and were everyone as to travel to the site
So what was it 2000 jobs no was it 1500 no was it 800? It's now less than 20 according to NC ( low skilled)
Hell of a legacy wakefield the home of the warehouse

And you successfully avoid the pertinent points once more:

1. The land was going to be industrial with or without a stadium.
2. I have no idea why you are on a RL forum.

We will see what turns out.

Who would not listen. I think you are mistaking me with Mr Harold Stephens, HM Planning Inspector who recommended that the Sectetary of State grant consent.

Of course it was all about warehouses, it's the warehouses that will pay for a stadium or a redeveloped Belle Vue. No warehouses or development, no stadium or BV. How did you think the stadium was to be paid for.

Where would you put development to creat jobs. You can only put it where there is land suitable for development close to infrastructure and Newmarket fitted the bill, stadium or no stadium, and that is what 2 members of HM Planning Inspectorate thought.

I appreciate your honesty on being a NIMBY but the fact is that the Newmarket Colliery site was always going to be designated for development sooner rather that later irrespective of whether there is a stadium or not.

Not sure what you're saying about Jobs. When all the land is developed there will be hundreds of jobs, you seem to be talking about the one building that is currently being built, the NewCold. Do you think the rest won't be developed?

I know people that travel from all over Wakefield to work on the 41 industrial Estate, so again not sure what you're saying with 'were everyone as to travel to the site'.

I live close to the develpoment and I hope it does gets built, stadium or not.

If that was the case why did YCP a need you ?
What they needed was a level and you were it
What you keep avoiding is , was you told during the PI that there was no promise of a stadium ? Please answer

And I come on here to see if your still saying " can't say anything but it's going to be soon "

There was not enough in to build a stadium even if you built everything,
Again if it was always going to be why did YCP need to build a stadium?
Ask yourself why did YCP agree to every little detail during the PI ? Because they know it was never happening .

My gut feeling is no it won't , give it 2 years or so and they will go for change of use and along will come housing ,that's were the money is.
People travel if there is an infurstructor but there isn't one nor will there be based on 20 jobs

is that someone who dresses up in animal skin to teach others new skills.... I think I heard of them before!!

No wildcat skins though!

I guess you have been looking at the Jones LangLaSalle appraisal and the bottom line for profit.

Have a look further and you may find where they have put in a substantial contribution to the stadium.

Genuinely feel sad for the Wakey fans who just want to watch Wakey and RL in general.
Nothing seems to change year after year, thread after thread

Quote ="TV200"Nimby hell ye I think you will find out that no one objected to the stadium ,but the objection were pointing out that there is no stadium and it was all about warehouses,but no you wouldn't listen . Your point about job's why put a jobs were unemployement is the lowest and were everyone as to travel to the site So what was it 2000 jobs no was it 1500 no was it 800? It's now less than 20 according to NC ( low skilled) Hell of a legacy wakefield the home of the warehouse'" Have to laugh at the 'no one objected to the stadium' propaganda; www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... s-1-972286 Truth is if the warehouses weren't part of the proposals the objectors wouldn't be able to hide behind them in their objection. I suppose while the land was in the process of being transferred YC needed the stadium aspect as a tool to sweeten the deal, but I do agree in believing they never had any intention of fulfilling the agreement.

Quote ="TV200"Nimby hell ye I think you will find out that no one objected to the stadium ,but the objection were pointing out that there is no stadium and it was all about warehouses,but no you wouldn't listen . Your point about job's why put a jobs were unemployement is the lowest and were everyone as to travel to the site So what was it 2000 jobs no was it 1500 no was it 800? It's now less than 20 according to NC ( low skilled) Hell of a legacy wakefield the home of the warehouse'" Have to laugh at the 'no one objected to the stadium' propaganda; www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... s-1-972286 Truth is if the warehouses weren't part of the proposals the objectors wouldn't be able to hide behind them in their objection. I suppose while the land was in the process of being transferred YC needed the stadium aspect as a tool to sweeten the deal, but I do agree in believing they never had any intention of fulfilling the agreement.

Because the site is greater than just the B8 industrial land. The plans include the hotel, restaurant and smaller units, all of which were on GB land. The B8 land, which would include the NC site was coming out of GB in any case.

And 20 jobs, seriously? I think you need to get a new informant because there are a few more than than from my knowledge. Regardless, there will be substantial numbers by the time the whole thing is completed.

You accuse us of being selfish. We are working to preserve an institution that has put Wakefield on the map, been watched by tens of thousands live (thousands these days), and provides the hub for professional sport, sporting education, sporting community activities and provides role models for young people across the district. I think you will find that it is not us who are selfish - I have nothing to gain from all of this, just pride in my club, my City and my own efforts to promote it! I suggest you care nothing but for the price of your house - and for that, there is nothing we could have done which would have prevented what you now have.

Enjoy!

The house price problem really makes me laugh, as it is only a problem if you plan to move. If not house prices don't effect you, unless you are planning to remortgage

I think he's a solicitor representing NGB4C

I do feel some sympathy for the residents living close to the Newcold building, it's an abominational eyesore of that there can be no argument.

The land would have been used for warehousing eventually so as Sandal Cat says there's little to gain by railing against those who were/are fighting for a stadium.

The villains in this are YCP, they NEVER intended to fund a stadium right from the off!
Colin Mackie and his co Directors are lining their pockets with the money intended to provide the City of Wakefield with desperately needed 21st century sports facilities and Wakefield a Trinity with a stadium.

There should be a judicial review of their misrepresentations during the PI by the SoS office.

Great post avenger 100% true

The process of having a stadium attached to a development is the most common way to have a new stadium built. Just look in recent months we've had York and today Grimsby have announced their new stadium all attached to new big developments it's how it's done nowadays.

So why have all these other developments gone ahead as planned with the stadiums being delivered!

Rugby League examples:
DW Stadium
Halliwell Jones
Langtree Park

What have they done differently to what's been done at Newmarket?

If the answer is an honest developer then there's your answer to our problem!

DW Stadium - Development of Robin Park but a very wealthy owner in Dave Whelan

Halliwell Jones - on the back of a development of a TESCO.

Langtree Park - think that is on the back of the development of the old Pilkington site by Langtree Developments.

Don't think any of the above are different to Newmarket. As to the Developers, we'll have to wait and see.

Both DW and halliwell Jones had supermarket involvement to finance the stadiums, not sure about the Langtree but it's rare a stadium is built on its own with no involvement from outside sources. Honest developers are a big help of course, let's see what happens with YC and what will happen with NM or Belle Vue.

Yes I know,
I was asking why when each if these, like ours, was on the back of a wider development hasn't ours been built, what was different?

Hence the question about a developer who has been less than honest.
If that's THE answer then we should know what to do.

I said almost a year ago, YCP have revealed their hand and have or never ever had any intention of paying one penny towards sports facilities Community, Trinity or otherwise. With that knowledge I see no reason to offer YCP any benefit of the doubt whatsoever and I would not trust them to return to the bargaining table with the intent of being honest or showing any integrity.

I would go straight for the jugular and bring in the SoS, a legal team, the WMDC Planning Office, Peter Box, Ed Balls, Sir Patrick Stewart, Michael Parkinson, Bruce Grobelaar, Sophie May Williams, or any one else I could think of in order to force YCP, under threat of legal action, to fulfil their obligation.

Avenger. your spot on bloody brilliant!!!!!!!