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| Quote Fully="Fully"Couldn't be more wrong.
I know for a fact the press release was planned before all of your conspiracy theories took place.'"
I thought the press release was to co-inside with the meeting last night but after taking to someone tonight its far worse than just a delay.
wish you well with your ground but lets not get into a bitch fest as its getting boring now
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| Quote snowie="snowie"I thought the press release was to co-inside with the meeting last night but after taking to someone tonight its far worse than just a delay.
wish you well with your ground but lets not get into a bitch fest as its getting boring now'"
Nothing to do with anything Wakefield related or anything Wakefield fans have said.
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| Quote Fully="Fully"Nothing to do with anything Wakefield related or anything Wakefield fans have said.'"
I know just the dates get moved further back again
disappointing isn't it for both clubs
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| Quote Fully="Fully"Nothing to do with anything Wakefield related or anything Wakefield fans have said.'"
I don't think the inference was that the release was prompted specifically by anything that Wakefield fans had said; more that it appears to speak directly to rumours that have been reported in the past few days in various places - not just here.
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| While it pains me to look at a "positive" from the Tigers' point of view, I'm inclined to disagree that Opus are "working against" the Tigers on this.
"Firstly, Opus Land (North) Ltd remain wholly committed to delivering a Supermarket on the site of the existing ground" confirmed Andrew Duncan, director, Opus Land (North) Ltd.
There may well be other (perhaps more suitable) sites in Cas for another supermarket, but if the perceived wisdom is that only one of the potential sites will receive planning permission for retail development I can't see how Opus would commit to the wording of this press release if they were involved in other sites for the same retailer.
ATEOTD both Wakefield & Cas are in touching distance of having a new stadium, but there is still a lot to be achieved on both sides. While licensing has resulted in P&R no longer being relevant, if the decision for 2015-17 licenses comes down to a choice between Wakefield & Cas I hope that both clubs have progressed enough for the choice to come down to what they have delivered on the pitch rather than off it.
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| Quote RDM="RDM"While it pains me to look at a "positive" from the Tigers' point of view, I'm inclined to disagree that Opus are "working against" the Tigers on this.
"Firstly, Opus Land (North) Ltd remain wholly committed to delivering a Supermarket on the site of the existing ground" confirmed Andrew Duncan, director, Opus Land (North) Ltd.
There may well be other (perhaps more suitable) sites in Cas for another supermarket, but if the perceived wisdom is that only one of the potential sites will receive planning permission for retail development I can't see how Opus would commit to the wording of this press release if they were involved in other sites for the same retailer.
ATEOTD both Wakefield & Cas are in touching distance of having a new stadium, but there is still a lot to be achieved on both sides. While licensing has resulted in P&R no longer being relevant, if the decision for 2015-17 licenses comes down to a choice between Wakefield & Cas I hope that both clubs have progressed enough for the choice to come down to what they have delivered on the pitch rather than off it.'"
I don't believe Opus are working against Cas at all, but just maybe they are not the only developer interested in getting a new supermarket in the area. There is no evidence at this stage either way that one site will be preferred for planning over any of the others. They all face the same hurdles to get over to achieve that and all from that point of view are even. It is other factors related to Wheldon Road that have tempted the supermarket involved to look elsewhere as they are deemed more cost effective and easier to implement. This does not mean another supermarket wouldn't be interested in the WR site but it makes it a harder sell and if the other developer gets a full application on a different site in first then it will be a struggle. The OPP on the EH site will be a fly in the ointment but not insurmountable as there is nobody interested in it at the present time and whilst it remains outline permission then other applications for full permission could still be made successfully.
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| Feel the need to break cover on this one.
Speculation is rife on this subject and who knows who is correct.
However as someone who works for a large supermarket I feel able to comment.
The issue is not whether a Supermarket will be built in Cas or by whom but which site gets the nod first - because it will be the only one that will be built - end of.
There is already an ASDA in Cas - I don't think there is enough trade in Cas to justify a second but it's probably worth it in terms of turnover and market presence for a punt from another chain.
What won't happen is a third supermarket on the Wheldon road site if they lose out this time. No way will any of the Supermarkets build a store to run at a loss and it will as Cas is simply not big enough to maintain three large stores. Wakefield itself only has two large and two medium stores and one of those is losing money!
Newmarket is our last hope IMO as most on here seem to agree - it's about time Cas fans realised that they are in the same boat and they are already missing a paddle. This ridiculous naivety and blindness to reality is becoming tiresome. The clock is ticking for both of us.
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| Cas town centre is crying out for a new supermarket. Asda is always packed and isn't big enough. Population wise Cas should have 2 large format supermarkets at least. One at Glasshoughton (Asda) and another in the town centre.
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| Quote youngcat="youngcat"There is nowhere else in castleford though, only WR and Aire Street. If they are objecting to Aire Street it must be WR.'"
There are two sites I've heard mentioned regarding a new retail store, the Nestle site just down the road from WR and a site next to the Burberry factory by the level crossing.
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| Quote Tigerade="Tigerade"Cas town centre is crying out for a new supermarket. Asda is always packed and isn't big enough. Population wise Cas should have 2 large format supermarkets at least. One at Glasshoughton (Asda) and another in the town centre.'"
That's not the debate - it's whether it needs a third should WR not be the winner - answer is no. I think you have a very inflated idea as to the size and needs of Castleford if you think it requires three large Supermarkets, come on be realistic.
Would you say WR is in the town centre? I wouldn't.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"Feel the need to break cover on this one.
Speculation is rife on this subject and who knows who is correct.
However as someone who works for a large supermarket I feel able to comment.
The issue is not whether a Supermarket will be built in Cas or by whom but which site gets the nod first - because it will be the only one that will be built - end of.
There is already an ASDA in Cas - I don't think there is enough trade in Cas to justify a second but it's probably worth it in terms of turnover and market presence for a punt from another chain.
What won't happen is a third supermarket on the Wheldon road site if they lose out this time. No way will any of the Supermarkets build a store to run at a loss and it will as Cas is simply not big enough to maintain three large stores. Wakefield itself only has two large and two medium stores and one of those is losing money!
Newmarket is our last hope IMO as most on here seem to agree - it's about time Cas fans realised that they are in the same boat and they are already missing a paddle. This ridiculous naivety and blindness to reality is becoming tiresome. The clock is ticking for both of us.'"
Very true which is why yet another delay can't be a good thing in any way, shape or form. If the rumours are true and Tesco fancy another site with another developer then, by the time the 3 to 4 month period that Opus are quoting is up, you would have expected movement on the alternative site and the WR plan will then be struggling. If they wanted WR they would have already signed up to stop another supermarket getting a foothold in the area and you can bet your bottom dollar if they do want an alternative site they won't be hanging around to give Opus a chance to find another tenant for WR.
All this shows just how hard it is in the current climate to get a new stadium, or any development for that matter, built. Newmarket is everything to the future Wakefield, just as GH is to Cas. Lets hope after years of false hope and rejection we finally get the good luck we need.
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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"There are two sites I've heard mentioned regarding a new retail store, the Nestle site just down the road from WR and a site next to the Burberry factory by the level crossing.'"
Why would the nestle site be more preferable it would have no advantage over WR but would not have the council and community backing that WR has and so be more likely to get rejected or get called into PI.
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