Yawn..... Can't we change the record.

We had youth, they had a chance an failed and that's that. We are bringing in new players to build a foundation for the future. Let's not hang a guy before he has had a chance to prove himself and his decisions. People who play for him love him and the general feedback from the remaining players is its much better.

Give them all a chance, I am all for youth but the structure around them has to be right too. Rome wasn't built in a day and all that.

I thinks its been a interesting debate, and in the main debated with reason and common sense.

Eveyones got different views on the club and Agar, thats how it should be.

Agar out

I agree that we should`nt judge R.A. before a ball has been passed but then again he is judging the young players abilities without seeing them in 1st team action.
I know that when you get 2 coaches opinions of players they will give 2 differing views but I do believe that when J.K. said that some of the youth players have a good future ahead of them down at Belle Vue I don`t think that he was flannelling the supporters, & I know some will say "then why did`nt JK select them" but last season was a damage limitation season as we did`nt have the talent on display ,which RA will have for this coming year.

Both Sam and Matt James were in total fitness with rest of the team on saturday morning in wakey training gear.. I've seen Sam in their before so might just be co=incidence but he was donning the same gear as the rest..

Perhaps if the players will train for nowt - then we are saving their wages? Seems a bit odd if they are not on the payroll tho. Not sure I would keep turning up at work if I wasn't getting paid for it?

You never win anything with kids. Ask Alan Hansen......

Alternatively, they could be invoicing on a self-employed basis or working on a temporary contract, until the assessment period is complete.

Despite what some people will have you believe, I'm sure there's a perfectly grown-up explanation.

Yes, I read it back after I'd posted it and realised that it didn't really work as a joke because it was actually quite a good idea.

Getting back on the sam obst thread, he was in the sainsburys on trinity walk and i heard a member of staff asking him if he was coming back to the wildcats for next season - he said nothing had been finalised yet??? does that mean he's on his way back as he didnt deny it!!

I would guess that Sam will only be coming if Tim Smith does not get a visa, especially if we have signed Paul Aiton as suggested on the other thread. Can't see where he would fit in if not.

I wonder what Andy Ellis is thinking now that Agar is planning on Paul Aiton being his main man??

Hopefully he's thinking, "I'm going to play out of my skin every week and if this lad wants my jersey, he's going to have rip it off my back."

It looks like we're going to have competition for key positions next season - it'll take a bit of getting used to, but I don't see it as a negative thing; quite the opposite.

Was sat next to Sam in the middle of the wakey players during the 4 nations final and it would be wrong to comment on pub talk and stuff heard eavesdropping, but when I asked Sam outright he was noncomittal.Also spoke to Isaac and while he seemed totally bewildered by the pub atmosphere he seemed very keen to get started next season, seems a pleasant down to earth fella.Just for info, all the lads were a pleasure to chat to and showed the club in a very good light,especially the one who's behaviour may be under the most scrutiny.Was interesting to hear a players verdict on some of the calls though and some of their opinions on some of the players too ! lol.

He's been training with the club a while. Whether this is just to keep fit or whilst he & the club to a suitable arrangement i'm not sure.

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Keighley are going to be a really impressive outfit next season by the looks of things - Obst alone will rip lots of teams at that level apart.