Yeh Rebel Rebel, plenty of midweek matches then due to postponements. Really something to look forward to in the working week.
Stood in snow and sleet at Fartown, Watersheddings,Thrum hall etc then a few beers n fish n chips on way home.
Paradise.
We had our favourite watering holes on the way home.
One I remember on moors outside Oldham sold ale straight from wooden cask, porued from a jug. Oldham breweries I seem to remember.
Cant remember name of pub.

i understand your sentiment, i think you make the argument for having quick scrums, but i'd still keep them as it takes 12 players out of the game and allows for a different shape to attacks for 1-3 tackles as a result.

i want them to be as quick as possible, but i would like the defending hookers to have a chance at winning the ball, not an even chance but a 1/5 chance.

Agreed, although the scrums themselves are a sham, at least it changes the dynamic of the game for a short while.

I know what you mean, I just don't think teams with big packs should have a chance at a contested scrum even though they have knocked on.

I think any knock on should be followed by a quick tap, I also think we should do away with this 'No it wasn't a knock on it went backwards' nonsense, fair enough if a pass hits the deck, but if a player drops the ball it would be a knock on for me. It always annoys me that a video referee can adjudge a knock on but not a forward pass.

I know having a scrum takes players out of the game, which can make set plays more interesting, but that is the only purpose of a scrum in Rugby League. Do away with them I say, let Yawnion rave on about how good they are. We can concentrate on playing expansive, flowing rugby while they watch a load a fat props and giant second rowers stamp on each other until someone gives a penalty away.

agree, hence my 1/5 chance. it's a sport afterall not a democracy.

don't agree about the tap, i think it prompts sterile and predictable play for 2/3 tackles as we see from 20m restarts. it favours the defenders too.

i think there is an argument for the "you dropped it/lost control so it's a knock on" argument. if the aussies come up with this to make the game easier to officiate then we'll see it here soon after...... we are of course only hanging on their coat tails.

??? Does this mean the acting half backs score every time they touch it if thery can't be tackled?

Thats pretty much exactly what I would say on the scrum matter, it's basically a chance for a practiced set piece between the backs on the pitch with the forwards having less involvement

I'd also really like to see the quick tap brought back, normally an excuse for a half back to have a go at a broken line some of which had there back turned on the attack, always exciting to watch and again brings a different sort of attack and speed to one or two plays and very often allowed the attack to get a roll on

why not cheaper all round

yes and a good reason for leaving the scrums in the game but make them real again

Let's drop the scrum and have Line outs.

Keep the scrums but insist forwards actually pack down properly and enforce that they must not break up before the ball comes out. Not one single side stay within 10m in any case, the defence is always (at least) up level with the scrum by the time the first receiver has the ball.

They changed the rule on scrums because it was just getting roo messy.
You had hookers flat on their backs (no pun intended) trying to get the ball and slipping the arm.
You had scrums just collapsing because everyone was trying to get out as quick as possible
Never ending penalties because of both

but most of all, in winter rugby it was hard to do properly in the mud

Now we are in summer rugby it shouldn't be as hard.

Saying that.....I like the ball in play quicker

So I'd like to see

1) Both teams allowed to push in the scrum (if other team collapse or break before ball out its a penalty to advancing side)
2) If the scrum is formed and the clock is stopped, the same players have to pack down....will help point 1 if you get backs in there
I'm ok with the feeding

It won't change much from today apart from if a team tries to get an advantage from the quick set up scrum, they have to back it up when the other team push.

Bring back the scrum bring back winter RL bring back a correct play the ball and bring back the skill the game maybe faster but it had lost everything else

Well I started this conversation a few weeks back after the Warrington game and more to do with the state of the game and tongue in cheek about the scrums. But after tonights debacle and again seeing the scores racked up over the weekend the game is too predictable.
The last 3 televised games has seen Saints twice and London have the games in the bag after 20 minutes after getting on a roll in the first quarter.There's too big a percentage of the SL games being walkovers and non events. I dread to think what will happen over Easter.
As for tonight's embarressment, the players,coaches and club should dig deep into their pockets and refund the brave lot that travelled down there to witness that non performance.

Not sure I agree with that. There have always been walkovers, but because the teams can get on a roll playing catch up, it is less predictable now. Do you remember the disgust of giving up a 21-0 half-time lead against Warrington? A Super League record. 21-0 now would no longer be regarded as a dead cert win. Take the Catalan game last Sunday. We had a massive lead, but did anyone relax until around five minutes to go?