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Quote: wwildcat48 "unfortunately sad but true and add spiers to the list.'"

If its dual registration for a year while they develop both physically and their game in general then fair enough. But if these were permanent departures then theres going to be a lot of unhappy people, me included.

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Sam was asked directly this week if he was coming, he said no, but we all know players are not always truthful

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Quote: Theboyem "If its dual registration for a year while they develop both physically and their game in general then fair enough. But if these were permanent departures then theres going to be a lot of unhappy people, me included.'"


One player who has now departed told me a lot of what is going on at the minute behind the scenes, some that will come out in the wash, some that wont.....Players being sacked, players being forced out,Players being paid off, legal action etc etc etc. It appears Agar is making a huge rod for his own back.
In relation to Sam, as Agar stated in the Express he has to get rid of some players to bring new ones in.......and the new ones in the frame is sharks hooker and Obsty - 2 hookers......you can take a calculated guess as to which possible players will be making way for them.

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Quote: wwildcat48 "One player who has now departed told me a lot of what is going on at the minute behind the scenes, some that will come out in the wash, some that wont.....Players being sacked, players being forced out,Players being paid off, legal action etc etc etc. It appears Agar is making a huge rod for his own back.
In relation to Sam, as Agar stated in the Express he has to get rid of some players to bring new ones in.......and the new ones in the frame is sharks hooker and Obsty - 2 hookers......you can take a calculated guess as to which possible players will be making way for them.'"


It does appear that some strange decisions are being made, why he is looking at any more hookers when we already have ellis, wildie, wood and davey who are all capable of doing a job in that position, whilst we have released 4 props from last years squad and only really signed Wilkes who has played any regular time in the position is baffling.

I also don't agree with forcing anyone out, particularly young and homegrown players who it should be easier to introduce into the first team with a better quality of player around them.

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Quote: wwildcat48 "One player who has now departed told me'"


Was he by any chance one of the players who didn't get an offer for next season or was 'forced out?'

If so, I take it you applied a liberal pinch of salt to his comments, rather than taking them all as statements of fact?

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Quote: wwildcat48 "One player who has now departed told me a lot of what is going on at the minute behind the scenes, some that will come out in the wash, some that wont.....Players being sacked, players being forced out,Players being paid off, legal action etc etc etc. It appears Agar is making a huge rod for his own back.
In relation to Sam, as Agar stated in the Express he has to get rid of some players to bring new ones in.......and the new ones in the frame is sharks hooker and Obsty - 2 hookers......you can take a calculated guess as to which possible players will be making way for them.'"

I'm afraid its true, i happen to know too how bad Agar is treating some of the young players, Higgins was about to knock him out, he's forcing James out, Moore out, sacked Howarth and paid him off, Told Wildie he's e at passing, Possibly Davey being pushed out,
This will be the last ever coaching job this clown will ever have , Didnt i read when Agar signed that he was gonna blood the young English players through the system, Well he's sure started well ????

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Can't see how he can get rid of Davey, Spiers & Wildie anyway, don't we have to have 8 club trained players in our top 25? Without these guys we haven't.

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Quote: Gelderdend "I'm afraid its true, i happen to know too how bad Agar is treating some of the young players, Higgins was about to knock him out, he's forcing James out, Moore out, sacked Howarth and paid him off, Told Wildie he's poop at passing, Possibly Davey being pushed out,
This will be the last ever coaching job this clown will ever have , Didnt i read when Agar signed that he was gonna blood the young English players through the system, Well he's sure started well ????'"

Then maybe he should use his coaching skills to improve him then?

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I hope ANDREW GLOVER and JAMES ELSTON read this. Agar should only be letting them leave on DR otherwise I don't see agar lasting the season without a revolt from wakey fans . perhaps it's time to start the chant. AGAR OUT!!! a026.gif a026.gif a026.gif NO MORE HOOKERs YOU BOLD GIMP!

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Well we don't know that It's true.. Lets see what he does on the pitch

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Quote: Willzay "I hope ANDREW GLOVER and JAMES ELSTON read this. Agar should only be letting them leave on DR otherwise I don't see agar lasting the season without a revolt from wakey fans . perhaps it's time to start the chant. AGAR OUT!!! Unlikely they'll be reading, they're on a boys jolly up in spain.

Heard that amongst other things there is a contentious issue regarding Kev Pennys release/sacking as well. Think the club could do with an experienced RL administrator on the board that knows what they are doing as there is a lot of naivety being shown right now.

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What do we want - and how would we deal with the situation?

Up to July this year we all thought we we're going down. Before that we were just grateful to have a club! The club took steps to prepare for building a team for the Championship - Moore and Higgins being signed for that purpose especially. We also had a legacy from this time last year and earlier in the season when we basically had to sign anyone who would come at that time.

The reality was that most of the squad were below par for a SL squad and we were late to the table in terms of signing players - and further confusion arose because, quite rightly IMO, we chose to change coach (no disrespect to JK who did a great job in his time overall). So we had some players on longer term contracts and some recently signed who didn't fit into the new coaches plans - and we have to respect that the guy knows what he is aiming to achieve. Ultimately he will be judged by immediate results on the pitch and, in the longer term, by the development of players. I am aware at the moment that he believes that many of our 'juniors' need bulking up in order to stand the rigours of SL - if that is the intention long term then, provided he retains the best of them, including dual contract placements, then fine, but we have to get these lads some match experience - whilst we have to compete in the first team.

In essence - let's be patient and judge the final article and not the work in progress!

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Quote: TRB "What do we want - and how would we deal with the situation?

Up to July this year we all thought we we're going down. Before that we were just grateful to have a club! The club took steps to prepare for building a team for the Championship - Moore and Higgins being signed for that purpose especially. We also had a legacy from this time last year and earlier in the season when we basically had to sign anyone who would come at that time.

The reality was that most of the squad were below par for a SL squad and we were late to the table in terms of signing players - and further confusion arose because, quite rightly IMO, we chose to change coach (no disrespect to JK who did a great job in his time overall). So we had some players on longer term contracts and some recently signed who didn't fit into the new coaches plans - and we have to respect that the guy knows what he is aiming to achieve. Ultimately he will be judged by immediate results on the pitch and, in the longer term, by the development of players. I am aware at the moment that he believes that many of our 'juniors' need bulking up in order to stand the rigours of SL - if that is the intention long term then, provided he retains the best of them, including dual contract placements, then fine, but we have to get these lads some match experience - whilst we have to compete in the first team.

In essence - let's be patient and judge the final article and not the work in progress!'"


Agree.

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Quote: Willzay "I hope ANDREW GLOVER and JAMES ELSTON read this. Agar should only be letting them leave on DR otherwise I don't see agar lasting the season without a revolt from wakey fans . perhaps it's time to start the chant. AGAR OUT!!!
If your not happy there are other places to watch the sport not too far away from BV

Me I am happy just to be in SL sport is a business and if I am honest I am really pleased they have taken a broom through the club a total fresh start is what was wanted in my opinion and for whats been done the club get my 100% support.

I would be happy to start next season with a total new set up.

As for ther players that have gone I am not fussed and if the rumours on here are to be believed (that old chextnut again) then people have a right in law to dispute or appeal they way they are treated.

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Quote: mwildcats "Well we don't know that It's true.. Lets see what he does on the pitch'"


Bingo! we don't but some have got the knives out already.

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