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| Quote: Uptoncat "Not the ref who wasn't the best but our display tonight. Very flat with ball in hand mainly 5 drives and a kick. Once again gleeson has shown he is the worst defensive centre in the league and blanch on the wing wasn't much better. We've got a natural centre playing out on the wing surely noes the time to drop gleeson give murphy his chance in his favourite position and bring back moreton or George. JD is looking very tired this season and I hate saying it but I'm not sure he's up to the task against the top teams in the league. Hopefully tonight is a blip but it's no coincidence that the two tes we've played with a bit of form behind them have beaten us convincingly. The score flattered us tonight and we need to improve ten fold for the derby game on good Friday'"
Yes I am another poster that totally agrees with your views.
Time to give Gleeson a rest but that leaves us with only Millard and Murphy as true centres in our squad.
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| would have to agree with previous posts, we were miles off the pace last night.
gleeson looks very out of form
blanch not playing half as well as morton was (poss not fit)
jd too slow for a centre and not creative enough for loose forward
sam gives his all but seemed to be trying to cover hooker as well when latu was off
tronc must be sick to death of being used as cannon fodder, trundling up the same channel where the opposition are stood waiting to hammer him!(just a random off the wall idea but why not miss him out once in a while?)
it could just be transitional. losing brough, jeffries, johnson and newton was always going to have some effect on the team.
with the half back situation we cannot start without an interchange hooker, thought young davey has stood up well so far
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| Quote: captaincaveman "would have to agree with previous posts, we were miles off the pace last night.
gleeson looks very out of form
blanch not playing half as well as morton was (poss not fit)
jd too slow for a centre and not creative enough for loose forward
sam gives his all but seemed to be trying to cover hooker as well when latu was off
tronc must be sick to death of being used as cannon fodder, trundling up the same channel where the opposition are stood waiting to hammer him!(just a random off the wall idea but why not miss him out once in a while?)
it could just be transitional. losing brough, jeffries, johnson and newton was always going to have some effect on the team.
with the half back situation we cannot start without an interchange hooker, thought young davey has stood up well so far'"
Thats because he went to hooker when Latu went off. Morrision to 7 and Cooke stays at 6.
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| Quote: Moon Knight "Thats because he went to hooker when Latu went off.[size Morrision to 7 and Cooke stays [/sizeat 6.'"
which pretty much sums it up for me
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| Quote: Moon Knight "Thats because he went to hooker when Latu went off. Morrision to 7 and Cooke stays at 6.'"
heaven help us!
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| Quote: chapster "heaven help us!'"
He started at Half back against Salford.
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| I thought Obst was a more than adequate replacement for Brough after the previous two games, or are we starting to look more long term now?
Poor Paul Cooke. When will he get a settled partner to work with so he can stamp his influence on the team. He's gone from not playing at all to moving to a new club and having to be the main creative force! Hopefully, he's given time and not expected to pull up trees straight away.
Is it better to play Morrison out of position while players come back, reducing his effectiveness, or put one of the much vaunted youth of this club in the side?
Is Demetriou up to it or, like Davis in his last year with us, is this a year too far? It'd be easy to say he's not being picked on performance at the moment. We can't pick a team on emotion can we?
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| Thought our 2 biggest problems last night were the terrible distribution from half back and individual errors in defense.
The balls from our acting half back were more often than not woeful from Latu - either infront or behind the runner or too high or too low - leaving the big fella's with no chance of timing their runs, something that Tronc and Gledhill particularly seemed to struggle with more than most yesterday, this left us on the back foot for most of the game.
Individual erros cost us deerly in defense, shocking numbering up and communication on the left hand side leaving us exposed. Blanch didn't have the pace to correct his (and more often Gleeson's) bad position and decisions. We decided to give them the outside, and they had the pace to take it - but we seemed to learn the lesson when Gleeson went off and we changed things. 2 tries and 10 points leaked before we start. Then we have, what appeared to be (from a long way away behind the sticks) a howler from Blaymire for their 3rd try - anybody seen a replay of it? 14 daft points leaked.
Whilst I don't doubt that Wire had another gear or maybe 2, and fluffed a couple of tries (Carvell taking the wrong option with a 3 man overlap springs to mind) and could have stepped up a notch if required, the fact is we only got beat by 16 points (16 we let in daftly) and stranger things have happened when we get close to teams after being well behind......
Kicking game was non existant, Korki and Tronc had as close to stinkers as they have had all season (aided by Latu) and with ball in hand we looked clueless, but you would expect that with a brand new/makeshift half back pairing.
We need to pull our fingers out against Cas cos I can't see us getting any change out of Wigan on Monday.
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| Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "I thought Obst was a more than adequate replacement for Brough after the previous two games, or are we starting to look more long term now?
Poor Paul Cooke. When will he get a settled partner to work with so he can stamp his influence on the team. He's gone from not playing at all to moving to a new club and having to be the main creative force! Hopefully, he's given time and not expected to pull up trees straight away.
Is it better to play Morrison out of position while players come back, reducing his effectiveness, or put one of the much vaunted youth of this club in the side?
Is Demetriou up to it or, like Davis in his last year with us, is this a year too far? It'd be easy to say he's not being picked on performance at the moment. We can't pick a team on emotion can we?'"
He seemed to be doing a bit of organising last night, pointing and showing the lads where to be - if he can continue to do this and stamp his influence as you say he might come good at 6 with BJ at 7.
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| Quote: Tommy Duckfingers "Thought our 2 biggest problems last night were the terrible distribution from half back and individual errors in defense.
The balls from our acting half back were more often than not woeful from Latu - either infront or behind the runner or too high or too low - leaving the big fella's with no chance of timing their runs, something that Tronc and Gledhill particularly seemed to struggle with more than most yesterday, this left us on the back foot for most of the game.
Individual erros cost us deerly in defense, shocking numbering up and communication on the left hand side leaving us exposed. Blanch didn't have the pace to correct his (and more often Gleeson's) bad position and decisions. We decided to give them the outside, and they had the pace to take it - but we seemed to learn the lesson when Gleeson went off and we changed things. 2 tries and 10 points leaked before we start. Then we have, what appeared to be (from a long way away behind the sticks) a howler from Blaymire for their 3rd try - anybody seen a replay of it? 14 daft points leaked.
Whilst I don't doubt that Wire had another gear or maybe 2, and fluffed a couple of tries (Carvell taking the wrong option with a 3 man overlap springs to mind) and could have stepped up a notch if required, the fact is we only got beat by 16 points (16 we let in daftly) and stranger things have happened when we get close to teams after being well behind......
Kicking game was non existant, Korki and Tronc had as close to stinkers as they have had all season (aided by Latu) and with ball in hand we looked clueless, but you would expect that with a brand new/makeshift half back pairing.
We need to pull our fingers out against Cas cos I can't see us getting any change out of Wigan on Monday.'"
Yes another good post highlighting some valid points.
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| It was unfortunate as I've enjoyed some good proper battles between our sides. Dunno if you have injuries or not, but Wakey offered nothing last night - which was a shame. One good try, atry from Korki that never was a try, and a complet balls up in defence on our part for the third.
The only shining light was the guy who played 31 for you.
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| Quote: Steve51 "It was unfortunate as I've enjoyed some good proper battles between our sides. Dunno if you have injuries or not, but Wakey offered nothing last night - which was a shame. One good try, atry from Korki that never was a try, and a complet balls up in defence on our part for the third.
The only shining light was the guy who played 31 for you.'"
Korkis was a try, a lucky try. The pass was not meant for him, he got in the way, the ball hit him on the leg, then the padding on the post and landed over the line and he touched it down. No infringement, just very lucky.
Your'e right, we offered nothing. The guy who played 31 is a Gledhill, a young lad who has just signed full time who looks like he could be a good one.
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| Quote: captaincaveman "would have to agree with previous posts, we were miles off the pace last night.
gleeson looks very out of form
blanch not playing half as well as morton was (poss not fit)
jd too slow for a centre and not creative enough for loose forward
sam gives his all but seemed to be trying to cover hooker as well when latu was off
tronc must be sick to death of being used as cannon fodder, trundling up the same channel where the opposition are stood waiting to hammer him!(just a random off the wall idea but why not miss him out once in a while?)
it could just be transitional. losing brough, jeffries, johnson and newton was always going to have some effect on the team.
with the half back situation we cannot start without an interchange hooker, thought young davey has stood up well so far'"
I could not agree more, the guts of the teams injured or gone and we can't expect miracles for the time being from the players left untill we get BJ back and Cooke fits in.
I don't understand what some people expect at times.
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| Quote: Steve51 "but Wakey offered nothing last night - which was a shame. One good try, atry from Korki that never was a try, and a complet balls up in defence on our part for the third.'"
If we are mentioning tries,Warrington scored one in the first half when the Wakefield side stopped,following a Warrington kick-through when the kicker ran into a Wakefield player and then fell to the ground( This was after an earlier dubious decision by Bentham).In the second half,the try in the corner came about when Bentham positioned himself to obstruct the Wakefield defender.
Warrington were the better side and deserved the victory and as Smith is quoted as saying 'Still early doors and we're still learning'. It certainly applies to Wakefield.
Wakefield will be offering far more in future contests.
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "I could not agree more, the guts of the teams injured or gone and we can't expect miracles for the time being from the players left untill we get BJ back and Cooke fits in.
I don't understand what some people expect at times.'"
Dead right AL, it's like starting all over again with no pre season.
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