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Are we getting the ground back before these fancy projects?

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icon_biggrin.gif No. But the length of time this New Ground issue has been going might take beyond my allotted three score and ten (plus a bit more hopefully).

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Quote: charlie63wildcat "Not enjoying it in the slightest
OK. Lets be positive. Wow we have great coach and its only a matter of time before we gel. Th club has managed its finances brilliantly and had some awful bad luck with thos nasty tax people asking fo their money and such like. We've always been kept brilliantly up to date by the club and you can't rush these things, its only been 15 years we'v been off to a new ground and 5 for Newmarket and I'm sure all those nice people at YCP and the council have always had our interests as foremost in their thoughts....and I am so looking foward to my seat in the new gleaming East Stand in 2015. There. Positive enough? I don't enjoy any of this at all. If I've posted 11 tims its becaus I'm pig sick of it all and oh...I thought it was a forum for comments, but only if you think the world is made of candy and the moon of cheese it seems'"

And believe it or not Charlie I agree with all the sentiments in this post, if only you came on here when there is the slightest positive news and added a positive note but you don't, it's always negative, if we beat Leeds by 50 you'd complain it should have been 60.
As I say, I'm as sick as the next man, how do you think we involved SWAG feel? Gutted isn't the word. I can't imagine how TRB felt when he found out, he's put far far more time and effort into this than the rest of us, he must be ragging his hair out. icon_biggrin.gif

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Problem is by the time anything happens who knows which division we will be in'"



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Quote: lampyboy "That's part of the wakey make up, it always has been and I don't ever see things changing. We just seem unable to get things right in all departments. You only have to look round at the strides other clubs have made to realise that we are miles behind in most aspects.its easy to get to get pig sick especially has an older fan , two steps forward one and a half sometimes three back. Some good solid news would be long over due and a welcomed'"

Well, we got it today Lampy Boy...and of course I didnt go..serves me right I suppose. I call it the I dont go effect.It is weird how often that happens. I go for a few, gt p'd off..stop at key point...like today!It results in me only ever seeing defeats! Glad to have some good news though and in a strang way, driving back from Wakefield to Hull at 4.30 having been to see my old, cant go any more 94 y old, there in 1928 Wakey fan Dad, and hearing the delerium of the last try score, made me laugh a great deal. Well done. About time we had some good news.

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Quote: kinleycat "Is this the case, that NM has been abandoned?

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Quote: Sandal Cat "Charlie, what do you want us "advocates" to say.

You say Newmarket "was exactly what we needed". Well I agree with you as does TRB and IA. I and others have spent many hours of our time working towards this aim. We've stood in the precinct getting 15,000 people to sign a petition in favour of the project, gave evidence in support at a Public Inquiry as well as attended too many meetings to count.

Were we pushing for Newmarket ? - you bet your b*lls we were and we were still pushing for it last Wednesday evening when we met to discuss what could be done to push Newmarket forward when the Wakefield Express announced that a decision had been made to re-develop Belle Vue. We did not leak the story, as we were still looking at whether Newmarket could be delivered and we were pretty gobsmacked and brassed off when we heard of the news as some on here.

Do you want us to tell you what has gone wrong, if indeed anything has gone wrong ?

Well we don't bl**dy well know - all we know is that it has now been decided to redevelop Belle Vue and abandon Newmarket. Are wee peed of by this decision - just a bit - after all the time we have put in.

Can we speculate what has gone wrong, again if anything has gone wrong. Well I can have a good shot at it and I might be right but I equally may be wrong and upset what negotiations may come for Belle Vue so I'm sure you'll understand that its best if I keep my big mouth well and truly shut rather than peeing in the wind and speculating.

There are some on here who are happy with the decision to stay at Belle Vue. I'm not, but if the decision has been made then like it or not we, if we care about the Club, have to work towards obtaining the very best deal for the Stadium Trust and The Club. That will involve negotiations with a number of parties and having worked most of my career in Property & Land Development those negotiations are best served in private and not in the public domain.

The situation is simple, people can trust those involved in the project or not but all I can say is those that I know who are involved are as passionate about Wakefield Trinity as anyone who post on here.

One the other hand if anyone would like to take my place then please feel free to do so because I'm happy to stand down and get some sleep at night and not have my wife ranting at me because I'm sloping off to meetings at the drop of a hat or constantly on the phone to TRB.

I know you are sick of hearing this but please be patient, this is proving very difficult.'"


Hello SandalCat. Thank you for your reply. I can see you have put a lot into driving Trinity forward. I genuinely deeply respect that.It is not the people like you I distrust. Look, I do not pretend to know chapter and verse on all of this, but the time all this has taken, the referrals to secretaries of state, the Leeds Council shennaggins, the time and grinding slowness of it all..it is people in the corridors of power I dont trust. Something looks mighty funny about all of this. The ones it seems you have been remonstrating, negotiating and campaigning with are the ones I don't trust. Something is fishy about all of this I do NOT mean from hard working and club passionate people like you. Or at least that is what it looks like to those of us not as close to it as you. It frankly looks as fishy as high heaven...but we shall see.

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I'm not sure I understand this.
Is it a definitive decision to redevelop Belle Vie or could Newmarket still be possible?

I can't tell as there is a lot of "if"s and "maybe"s in the thread.

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Quote: Disney cat "I apologise if this has already been mentioned but they are saying Newmarket May not happen and we are staying at Bellevue.

Anybody heard anything ???'"


I'm genuinely shocked to hear this.

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How is it possible to wriggle out of a s106 agreement? My understanding is that they are site-specific, so the development at Newmarket Lane was considered unacceptable, but was made acceptable by the agreement to provide a Community Stadium.

Sounds like York Court have played a blinder.

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Quote: bren2k "How is it possible to wriggle out of a s106 agreement? My understanding is that they are site-specific, so the development at Newmarket Lane was considered unacceptable, but was made acceptable by the agreement to provide a Community Stadium.

Sounds like York Court have played a blinder.'"

Indeed. I know there are people fom SWAG on here who have put years of work into this and I am not having a go at them. I have just thought the time, delays and to-ings and fo-ings nver looked right at all. It should not take 5 years to get a project like this. HS2 will probably happen faster. Never right and I feel SWAG and the rest of us have been hoodwinked..but I know nowt so maybe those that do would keep enlightning us as much as they feel able?

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Full article.'"



The situation now is the club has no money, erm, it’s never has any money!

So no grant money either, just the developers “bribe” how much will that be?

Therefore the only money available is the developers money, yet B.V will bear no resemblance to what’s there at the moment, perhaps they will issue fans with a crack pipe on entry.

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Gutted for the club and I hope BV will be redeveloped I had many happy memories at BV Do I miss Wakefield? yes Do I miss RL? No
Good luck the club will always be in my heart

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