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| In addition to those "great" Trinity wingers already mentioned what about the likes of Berwyn Jones, David Smith, Andys Wilson and Fletcher, and Keith Slater??? I think Tom Johnstone will one day rank along with all of those
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"But back to Tom Johnstone.........whoever you are you must accept the lad has potential, I have not seen a winger of his quality coming through our ranks for years.
We may all have different views as to what he is capable of and I have mine. I won't put any pressure on him, suffice to say he's going to score us some good tries and for now, that will do.'"
Put it this way had Johnson's brilliant soaring take of the highball follows by an equally brilliant offload been allowed to stand (and it was close) it would have been a contender for try of the season. How many rookie wingers achieve 9 tries in 12 games (most self created) and be a fraction short of a try of the season in their first year? Not many but most that do are considered to have potential and even the chance to go all the way by all except John it would appear.
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| Quote ="Redscat"In addition to those "great" Trinity wingers already mentioned what about the likes of Berwyn Jones, David Smith, Andys Wilson and Fletcher, and Keith Slater??? I think Tom Johnstone will one day rank along with all of those'"
Andy fletcher!!!! Looked as though a stiff breeze would blow him over! BUT he could run a whippet to a stand still used to score some crackers.. Remember him running rings round some puffed out hull fac forwards in a challenge cup match at belle view..
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| Played against gerry mann a few times chissit think ken trails reference to the great Lionel Cooper was the fact that Gerry like Lionel didn't try to run around you ran straight at you with high knees pumping took a brave man to make the tackle
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| With Clarkey singing Johnstone's praises last season, when it looked like we may end up in the Championship, I wonder if he will still be singing his praises this season?
Nowt no surer, that if Tom were wearing a different coloured shirt, the Sky commentry box would be awash!
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| I believe that he showed sufficient last season to suggest he will be a star of the future. I think signing him to a four year contract could be a shrewd move because I expect him to attract much attention from the usual suspects. We have ensured that if any club wants to sign him they will have to pay or wait four years.
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| INOUT Quote ="vastman"Put it this way had Johnson's brilliant soaring take of the highball follows by an equally brilliant offload been allowed to stand (and it was close) it would have been a contender for try of the season. How many rookie wingers achieve 9 tries in 12 games (most self created) and be a fraction short of a try of the season in their first year? Not many but most that do are considered to have potential and even the chance to go all the way by all except John it would appear.'"
Sean Ainscough is a great example of how it can all go wrong. Looked World Class as a junior. Tore the Australian Academy team apart. First season for Wigan scored a try a game many of which were self made. Great pace over 30 yards, fantastic step etc. Season 2 came on the radar weaknesses were noted and teams exploited them, now the thing he will be remembered for is his attempted kick into touch last year in lower league rugby.
History is littered with wingers who have a good debut year, and maybe a second then vanish into obscurity.
I've expressed my opinion on him earlier, I think he is solid in all areas on the match except in defence especially positionally, I don't see anything that makes me sit up and think "wow" that kid looks special, but that is just my opinion. Quite why you feel the need to quote me constantly in your posts in not sure but I am flattered.
Offering a 4 year deal after such limited exposure to first team rugby all be it a relatively successful one when he has 3 years left anyway is an odd one and I think born more out of a PR attempt after the recent losses than necessity.
Apologies by the way for the drama queen comment, I've never met you so am unsure of your sex, it seems my assumption was incorrect.
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"I agree with you TRB and don't wish to be pedantic but perhaps it would have been more accurate to say 'many great wingers recently' we had great wingers in the 60's and 70's - the likes of Hirst, Prinsloo, Fred Smith, Coetzer and Slater to name but a few. Sorry, I tend to live in the past but those wingers would have walked into any team nowadays.
BTW Johnstone is a brilliant prospect, those who doubt it cannot be relied on for their RL knowledge.'"
Sorry, only old enough to know them by reputation. Fletcher and Juliff were my era and not a great lot since, with some very good triers!
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| The difference between Tom and Ainscough is between the lug oils  Ive known Tom a while and he's the most level headed and polite lad I've known, given the responsibility of the No2 shirt.I can assure it wasn't the money that kept him at Trin so I think a massive pat on the back for Tom and the Wakey board for making this deal possible when others were after his services.I'll have a bob on Tom being the leading try scorer for Trin next season and well up there in the overall SL scorers. 
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I believe that he showed sufficient last season to suggest he will be a star of the future. I think signing him to a four year contract could be a shrewd move because I expect him to attract much attention from the usual suspects. We have ensured that if any club wants to sign him they will have to pay or wait four years.'"
We have a winner!
There's far too much attention on his nascent talent (of which he has plenty) and not enough understanding of the business aspect of this deal; we've clearly made an investment in him and in return, he's signed a longer than average deal so that if he does get an offer he can't refuse, we get paid. It's good to see us thinking like this - well played MC and Co.
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"We had one super league club making enquiries"
We all know who that is. 
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"We had one super league club making enquiries"
We all know who that is. 
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| Quote ="TRB"Sorry, only old enough to know them by reputation. Fletcher and Juliff were my era and not a great lot since, with some very good triers!'"
Yeah there's been a bit of a gap hasn't there. Fletcher and Juliff were good however and perhaps Andy Wilson since.
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"Yeah there's been a bit of a gap hasn't there. Fletcher and Juliff were good however and perhaps Andy Wilson since.'"
Not in the same class as Prinsloo, F Smith & Co but Bostock was good to watch and put the fear of God in his opposite number.
Sovatabua and Tadulala were good players too, Rotherforth was raw but had the ability to terrorise defences with sheer speed and a low centre of gravity.
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| Remember Andy further running the full length of the field away at hull on cold wet night on virtual sand pit Wakey won 6 3 1983 I think,?
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Remember Andy further running the full length of the field away at hull on cold wet night on virtual sand pit Wakey won 6 3 1983 I think,?'"
It was 1980, one of my top twenty memories, the score finished 5 - 2.
We were under the cosh for the majority of the game.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"It was 1980, one of my top twenty memories, the score finished 5 - 2.
We were under the cosh for the majority of the game.'"
Was this the one where Clive Sullivan made a hash of grounding the ball in the corner and Fletch picked it up and went full length with Sullivan in vain persuit?
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Was this the one where Clive Sullivan made a hash of grounding the ball in the corner and Fletch picked it up and went full length with Sullivan in vain persuit?'"
I was behind the sticks at the other end of the ground, so not sure of the circumstances, I just remember Fletch running towards me & my brother-in-law trying to calm me down as we were surrounded by distraught Hull fans.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"I was behind the sticks at the other end of the ground, so not sure of the circumstances, I just remember Fletch running towards me & my brother-in-law trying to calm me down as we were surrounded by distraught Hull fans.'"
The game I'm thinking about was at the old Craven Park v Hull Kingston Rovers.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"The game I'm thinking about was at the old Craven Park v Hull Kingston Rovers.'"
No, Deffo Boulevard with the speedway track.
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| He did a length of the field try at Boulevard when on t but we got hammered in the end.
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| Quote ="Willzay""We had one super league club making enquiries"
We all know who that is.
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I think you might be wrong Willzay,especially if you said Shudds.
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| OK 1980 boulevard, Andy fletcher intercepted on trinity's try line and went full length, no grass in those days at hull just sand !!
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| Quote ="jonh"INOUTSean Ainscough is a great example of how it can all go wrong. Looked World Class as a junior. Tore the Australian Academy team apart. First season for Wigan scored a try a game many of which were self made. Great pace over 30 yards, fantastic step etc. Season 2 came on the radar weaknesses were noted and teams exploited them, now the thing he will be remembered for is his attempted kick into touch last year in lower league rugby.
History is littered with wingers who have a good debut year, and maybe a second then vanish into obscurity.
I've expressed my opinion on him earlier, I think he is solid in all areas on the match except in defence especially positionally, I don't see anything that makes me sit up and think "wow" that kid looks special, but that is just my opinion. Quite why you feel the need to quote me constantly in your posts in not sure but I am flattered.
Offering a 4 year deal after such limited exposure to first team rugby all be it a relatively successful one when he has 3 years left anyway is an odd one and I think born more out of a PR attempt after the recent losses than necessity.
Apologies by the way for the drama queen comment, I've never met you so am unsure of your sex, it seems my assumption was incorrect.'"
Yes, you made your point in your first post jonh, shut up now please 
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Back to the subject of the discussion thread  .....
'asmadasa wrote:
Wakefield have been offered a half-back from Australia who could fit the bill if terms are agreed and the Keyes prospect falls flat.
Read more: www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-7628758
Who is that then?'
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Back to the subject of the discussion thread  .....
'asmadasa wrote:
Wakefield have been offered a half-back from Australia who could fit the bill if terms are agreed and the Keyes prospect falls flat.
Read more: www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-7628758
Who is that then?'
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