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| Quote: dboy "I join other Wakey fans in hoping that, for the good of RL, Cas are successful in their hopes for a new build (hopefully not long after ours!) - that doesn't mean we should bury our heads and pretend all is well, a la Richard Wright.'"
I'm with you on that and, despite the few divots who represent Cas on here, I bear them no ill-will.
My view remains that there will be one Community Stadium built in the WMD in the coming 18-24 months, and it will be at J30 of the M62, equi-distant between Wakefield and Castleford.
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| Quote: dboy "Of course we have our own worries, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss other happenings.
You miss the point about the WR situation. Tesco haven't decided on WR, they have decided on building in Cas. They object to the rival Aire St build because of this.
Tesco's current opinion is that a "different" site in Cas is most deliverable, not WR. If Aire St gets the go ahead, neither the "other site", nor WR will happen. They won't give permission for 2 retail outlets at this time.
First past the post wins!'"
There is nowhere else in castleford though, only WR and Aire Street. If they are objecting to Aire Street it must be WR.
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| Quote: bren2k "I'm with you on that and, despite the few divots who represent Cas on here, I bear them no ill-will.
My view remains that there will be one Community Stadium built in the WMD in the coming 18-24 months, and it will be at J30 of the M1, equi-distant between Wakefield and Castleford.'"
I dont think so, we are too far down the line as our near neighbours.. We backed out of a feasability study once so i dont think we will go down that route. You may be right that one stadium is the answer, but it will have to be at NM or GH. That will never be agreed.
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| Quote: youngcat "I dont think so, we are too far down the line as our near neighbours.. We backed out of a feasability study once so i dont think we will go down that route. You may be right that one stadium is the answer, but it will have to be at NM or GH. That will never be agreed.'"
He is talking about NM!
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| Quote: youngcat "There is nowhere else in castleford though, only WR and Aire Street. If they are objecting to Aire Street it must be WR.'"
Sorry but you are wrong. There are two other sites that I know of that are interested in being sold and for supermarket development.
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| Quote: TRB "He is talking about NM!'"
He certainly is!
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| Quote: dboy ""Methinks they doth protest too much".
It's a knee-jerk reaction to the fact that the news about their problems was just about to become public.'"
Couldn't be more wrong.
I know for a fact the press release was planned before all of your conspiracy theories took place.
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| Quote: Fully "Couldn't be more wrong.
I know for a fact the press release was planned before all of your conspiracy theories took place.'"
I thought the press release was to co-inside with the meeting last night but after taking to someone tonight its far worse than just a delay.
wish you well with your ground but lets not get into a bitch fest as its getting boring now
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| Quote: snowie "I thought the press release was to co-inside with the meeting last night but after taking to someone tonight its far worse than just a delay.
wish you well with your ground but lets not get into a bitch fest as its getting boring now'"
Nothing to do with anything Wakefield related or anything Wakefield fans have said.
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| Quote: Fully "Nothing to do with anything Wakefield related or anything Wakefield fans have said.'"
I know just the dates get moved further back again
disappointing isn't it for both clubs
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| Quote: Fully "Nothing to do with anything Wakefield related or anything Wakefield fans have said.'"
I don't think the inference was that the release was prompted specifically by anything that Wakefield fans had said; more that it appears to speak directly to rumours that have been reported in the past few days in various places - not just here.
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| While it pains me to look at a "positive" from the Tigers' point of view, I'm inclined to disagree that Opus are "working against" the Tigers on this.
"Firstly, Opus Land (North) Ltd remain wholly committed to delivering a Supermarket on the site of the existing ground" confirmed Andrew Duncan, director, Opus Land (North) Ltd.
There may well be other (perhaps more suitable) sites in Cas for another supermarket, but if the perceived wisdom is that only one of the potential sites will receive planning permission for retail development I can't see how Opus would commit to the wording of this press release if they were involved in other sites for the same retailer.
ATEOTD both Wakefield & Cas are in touching distance of having a new stadium, but there is still a lot to be achieved on both sides. While licensing has resulted in P&R no longer being relevant, if the decision for 2015-17 licenses comes down to a choice between Wakefield & Cas I hope that both clubs have progressed enough for the choice to come down to what they have delivered on the pitch rather than off it.
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| Quote: RDM "While it pains me to look at a "positive" from the Tigers' point of view, I'm inclined to disagree that Opus are "working against" the Tigers on this.
"Firstly, Opus Land (North) Ltd remain wholly committed to delivering a Supermarket on the site of the existing ground" confirmed Andrew Duncan, director, Opus Land (North) Ltd.
There may well be other (perhaps more suitable) sites in Cas for another supermarket, but if the perceived wisdom is that only one of the potential sites will receive planning permission for retail development I can't see how Opus would commit to the wording of this press release if they were involved in other sites for the same retailer.
ATEOTD both Wakefield & Cas are in touching distance of having a new stadium, but there is still a lot to be achieved on both sides. While licensing has resulted in P&R no longer being relevant, if the decision for 2015-17 licenses comes down to a choice between Wakefield & Cas I hope that both clubs have progressed enough for the choice to come down to what they have delivered on the pitch rather than off it.'"
I don't believe Opus are working against Cas at all, but just maybe they are not the only developer interested in getting a new supermarket in the area. There is no evidence at this stage either way that one site will be preferred for planning over any of the others. They all face the same hurdles to get over to achieve that and all from that point of view are even. It is other factors related to Wheldon Road that have tempted the supermarket involved to look elsewhere as they are deemed more cost effective and easier to implement. This does not mean another supermarket wouldn't be interested in the WR site but it makes it a harder sell and if the other developer gets a full application on a different site in first then it will be a struggle. The OPP on the EH site will be a fly in the ointment but not insurmountable as there is nobody interested in it at the present time and whilst it remains outline permission then other applications for full permission could still be made successfully.
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| Feel the need to break cover on this one.
Speculation is rife on this subject and who knows who is correct.
However as someone who works for a large supermarket I feel able to comment.
The issue is not whether a Supermarket will be built in Cas or by whom but which site gets the nod first - because it will be the only one that will be built - end of.
There is already an ASDA in Cas - I don't think there is enough trade in Cas to justify a second but it's probably worth it in terms of turnover and market presence for a punt from another chain.
What won't happen is a third supermarket on the Wheldon road site if they lose out this time. No way will any of the Supermarkets build a store to run at a loss and it will as Cas is simply not big enough to maintain three large stores. Wakefield itself only has two large and two medium stores and one of those is losing money!
Newmarket is our last hope IMO as most on here seem to agree - it's about time Cas fans realised that they are in the same boat and they are already missing a paddle. This ridiculous naivety and blindness to reality is becoming tiresome. The clock is ticking for both of us.
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| Cas town centre is crying out for a new supermarket. Asda is always packed and isn't big enough. Population wise Cas should have 2 large format supermarkets at least. One at Glasshoughton (Asda) and another in the town centre.
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