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| Daft as it sounds, the way we started the game with 13 on the field, I am not convinced we would have done much better had Poore not being sent off. I also think a lot of fans would have settled for a 20 point losing margin when we were 10 0 down after 10 mins.
Wood did well when he came on and based on today's game, I would probably play him at stand off next week and leave Sykes at FB.
Also thought Mellars played well to say he has been in and out of the team.
Tim Smith seems to still be carrying his calf injury and Washbrook didn't look 100% fit.
Finally Aiton had his best game of the season imo, some great defence and caused problems running from dummy half (something I wish he would do more)
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| Not much to say when you play the form team for most of the game a man down. A team like Wigan will always find those overlaps with some of the class they have playing for them. At least we stuck at it and showed some pride & passion with a few good individual performances from the boys.
I agree with TRB on this, I think we are a better side than what they've shown this season. It's very similar to this stage last season in that we've played really well at times but we haven't put together that solid 80 minute performance. For me we've got to learn when to throw the ball around and when to stick it up the jumper, particularly when we've had leads in games and stop the silly mistakes that kill us at times.
Like someone else said previously the loses to Catalans, Huddersfield, Hull and the draw to Salford are the ones that hurt the most. Said at the time the lost points could come back to bite us and will also put the team under even more pressure. With a little bit more composure and a bounce of a ball here or there we could have been easily in the top 8 but instead we're looking down not up and fans are getting disgruntled.
Over the next month or so we really need to step it up and start looking like the team that finished last season. Start getting some consistency together with some big performances, starting with the likes of Catalans at home, Widnes & HKR, which are all winnable imo.
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| For all those who didn't go Wakey ,in my eyes played good football after going down to 12 men.They showed spirit,guts and kept going to the end.If they play with the same spirit next week and don't have crap decisions from officials 2 points are ours.I'm sick of listening to opinions of people who were not there or just bag Trin with blinkers still on.As regards Poore,his loss is someones gain.All players today deserve a pat on the back.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"I agree we dont respect the ball at all. I am all for expansive rugby but we do not respect posession and our defence is not good enough not to respect possession. Its worrying Agar never mentions this after the games. As for using the squad better i am so peeved off with the [uMAriano[/u thing. Agar has his favourites without doubt.'"
I'd be very peeved if I was Mariano, quality player that Agar doesn't seen to like very much for some very strange reason. A bench place at least for this guy every time, when fit.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Not much to say when you play the form team for most of the game a man down. A team like Wigan will always find those overlaps with some of the class they have playing for them. At least we stuck at it and showed some pride & passion with a few good individual performances from the boys.
I agree with TRB on this, I think we are a better side than what they've shown this season. It's very similar to this stage last season in that we've played really well at times but we haven't put together that solid 80 minute performance. For me we've got to learn when to throw the ball around and when to stick it up the jumper, particularly when we've had leads in games and stop the silly mistakes that kill us at times.
Like someone else said previously the loses to Catalans, Huddersfield, Hull and the draw to Salford are the ones that hurt the most. Said at the time the lost points could come back to bite us and will also put the team under even more pressure. With a little bit more composure and a bounce of a ball here or there we could have been easily in the top 8 but instead we're looking down not up and fans are getting disgruntled.
Over the next month or so we need to step it up and start getting some consistency & putting in some performances, starting with good performances against Catalans at home, Widnes & HKR which are all winnable imo.'"
Totally agree with you Shifty.
We have let some points go very easily this season and sure, we are capable of better.
Unfortunately we are at risk of losing too much ground on the top 8 and with this in mind, RA needs to
try and get the team fit and raring to go when the Challenge Cup comes round.
If that means resting a couple of players next week, then so be it.
Lets hope for a friendly draw tomorrow.
Quote ="Shifty Cat"Not much to say when you play the form team for most of the game a man down. A team like Wigan will always find those overlaps with some of the class they have playing for them. At least we stuck at it and showed some pride & passion with a few good individual performances from the boys.
I agree with TRB on this, I think we are a better side than what they've shown this season. It's very similar to this stage last season in that we've played really well at times but we haven't put together that solid 80 minute performance. For me we've got to learn when to throw the ball around and when to stick it up the jumper, particularly when we've had leads in games and stop the silly mistakes that kill us at times.
Like someone else said previously the loses to Catalans, Huddersfield, Hull and the draw to Salford are the ones that hurt the most. Said at the time the lost points could come back to bite us and will also put the team under even more pressure. With a little bit more composure and a bounce of a ball here or there we could have been easily in the top 8 but instead we're looking down not up and fans are getting disgruntled.
Over the next month or so we need to step it up and start getting some consistency & putting in some performances, starting with good performances against Catalans at home, Widnes & HKR which are all winnable imo.'"
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"For all those who didn't go Wakey ,in my eyes played good football after going down to 12 men.They showed spirit,guts and kept going to the end.If they play with the same spirit next week and don't have crap decisions from officials 2 points are ours.I'm sick of listening to opinions of people who were not there or just bag Trin with blinkers still on.As regards Poore,his loss is someones gain.All players today deserve a pat on the back.'"
Well said crig-fev man 
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| Farrell elbowed and then punched Poore, whats Justin supposed to do, stand there and let Farrell hit him!? You know what your going to get when you go to Wigan in terms of the referee but players have to stand up for themselves. Farrell and Poore should have been sin binned and that should have been the end of the matter.
On a brighter note I thought Lee Smith had one of his best games for us today, looked very dangerous in attack. Mellars and Annakin stood out. Team spirit was great. Bothers me slightly that had we played like we did today against Hull and Salford we'd have three more points on the board!
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| Quote ="4foxsake"=#FF0000Farrell elbowed and then punched Poore, whats Justin supposed to do, stand there and let Farrell hit him!? You know what your going to get when you go to Wigan in terms of the referee but players have to stand up for themselves. Farrell and Poore should have been sin binned and that should have been the end of the matter.
On a brighter note I thought Lee Smith had one of his best games for us today, looked very dangerous in attack. Mellars and Annakin stood out. Team spirit was great. Bothers me slightly that had we played like we did today against Hull and Salford we'd have three more points on the board!'"
No he didn't and how you could make that judgement from the North Stand is unbelievable. Poore led with the elbow, which is what caused the problem. Farrell got hold him and then Poore threw the punch (a good one) which floored Farrell. How the referee gave the penalty to Wakefield is unreal.
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| Quote ="4foxsake"Farrell elbowed and then punched Poore, whats Justin supposed to do, stand there and let Farrell hit him!? You know what your going to get when you go to Wigan in terms of the referee but players have to stand up for themselves. Farrell and Poore should have been sin binned and that should have been the end of the matter.
On a brighter note I thought Lee Smith had one of his best games for us today, looked very dangerous in attack. Mellars and Annakin stood out. Team spirit was great. Bothers me slightly that had we played like we did today against Hull and Salford we'd have three more points on the board!'"
Best and most correct post for some time,finally someone who watched the same game as me,well done. 
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| Quote ="4foxsake"Farrell elbowed and then punched Poore, whats Justin supposed to do, stand there and let Farrell hit him!? You know what your going to get when you go to Wigan in terms of the referee but players have to stand up for themselves. Farrell and Poore should have been sin binned and that should have been the end of the matter.
On a brighter note I thought Lee Smith had one of his best games for us today, looked very dangerous in attack. Mellars and Annakin stood out. Team spirit was great. Bothers me slightly that had we played like we did today against Hull and Salford we'd have three more points on the board!'"
Just watched the replay and not one word of what you said about the Farrell incident is true.
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"Just watched the replay and not one word of what you said about the Farrell incident is true.'"
How did you watch the replay?
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| Well I watched it too and Farrell clearly does punch him.
It's a pretty pansy punch but he does hit him. He squares up with a cocked first too.
Poore reaction was probably over the top but you shouldn't be treated worse just because he is abetter puncher.
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"How did you watch the replay?'"
This magical thing called T.V mate.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Well I watched it too and Farrell clearly does punch him.
It's a pretty pansy punch but he does hit him. He squares up with a cocked first too.
Poore reaction was probably over the top but you shouldn't be treated worse just because he is abetter puncher.'"
Totally agree, punching is punching, you can't penalise a player more severely based on the results of the punch.
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"Just watched the replay and not one word of what you said about the Farrell incident is true.'"
Must be made out of marshmallow in Wigan,rest wrapped in cotton wool bunch of girls. If you give it you've got to take it. 
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Sorry my friend, but Farrell clearly thrusts towards Poore's face with his hand/fist, what Poore did let his team mates down, but was understandable in the circumstances.
If he didn't "give" him anything, please explain the thrusting arm. What was the purpose of if?
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Sorry my friend, but Farrell clearly thrusts towards Poore's face with his hand/fist, what Poore did let his team mates down, but was understandable in the circumstances.
If he didn't "give" him anything, please explain the thrusting arm. What was the purpose of if?
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| The elbow occurred in the tackle, which isn't shown. Farrell's "punch" isn't as bad as what I thought it was but still he does raise a fist and make contact with Poore. Bet he won't be messing around with Poore in the return fixture!
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| Farrell went to push Poore away after Poore went after him, it looks like to me. Daft reaction, but I presume something happened in the tackle which started it, because Poore was going for him as soon as he was on his feet.
If a prop is going to be an enforcer and cop a ban, at least hit someone we don't like (Bailey, Tomkins, etc).
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| Quote ="4foxsake"The elbow occurred in the tackle, which isn't shown. Farrell's "punch" isn't as bad as what I thought it was but still he does raise a fist and make contact with Poore. Bet he won't be messing around with Poore in the return fixture!'"
I think plenty will mess with Poore, he looks like something of a loose cannon. The beneficiaries were Wigan, and let's not forget Laim Farrell, who was announced as Man of the Match on the Tannoy.
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| Quote ="violetrwb"Sorry my friend, but Farrell clearly thrusts towards Poore's face with his hand/fist, what Poore did let his team mates down, but was understandable in the circumstances.
If he didn't "give" him anything, please explain the thrusting arm. What was the purpose of if?'"
He hardly connected with anything. Certainly not worthy of retaliating with a punch anyway. If Poore is going to get riled up by a little shove in the face, then he's probably going to get sent off in the majority of the matches he plays.
Fwiw, he did 2 runs in the game. The first run I commented at the time on his raised forearm as he took the ball in. He did the same in the tackle previous to his sending off, and something must've been said on the floor.
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| Quote ="violetrwb"Sorry my friend, but Farrell clearly thrusts towards Poore's face with his hand/fist, what Poore did let his team mates down, but was understandable in the circumstances.
If he didn't "give" him anything, please explain the thrusting arm. What was the purpose of if?'"
He thrusts 'towards' Poore with his hand but that's very different to a punch. It's just a bit of a push with a handful of shirt. It's not really an aggressive motion which is why Poore got the straight red. Good punch though.
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| I'd rather see our players standing up for themselves, rather than letting people push them around! Oh and just to point out your 26 also went in throwing punches.....
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"He hardly connected with anything. Certainly not worthy of retaliating with a punch anyway. If Poore is going to get riled up by a little shove in the face, then he's probably going to get sent off in the majority of the matches he plays.
Fwiw, he did 2 runs in the game. The first run I commented at the time on his raised forearm as he took the ball in. He did the same in the tackle previous to his sending off, and something must've been said on the floor.'"
You're right he didn't connect, but there's no guarantee that hs wouldn't follow it up with one that might is there in the heat of battle etc. These things take fractions of seconds, and there's no prize for standing there and taking a risk that the second one either won't come, or be a pathetic as the first.
I bet the Australian national side a bricking themselves now they've seen how tough guy Farrell hit the deck. He looks like he couldn't knock the skin off a rice pudding.
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| Just to follow up. I have no issue if Poore gets a ban for this, personally I think having seen it again he's in a no win situation, he's struck first and wasn't hanging around for the second. However just because his shot was clean and quick shouldn't mean that he gets treated more harshly than Farrell and Crosby.
I remember Dallas Hood getting done for his part in a big brawl at Belle Vue. He was guilty but no more guilty than about 12 other players, but he was particularly effective during the scrap. Intent is intent.
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