Let’s raise the money?

Go on then it's all yours Mr positive, you organise it all and I'll back you all the way.

RE: Chairgate - the benches were removed and chairs put in during Covid restrictions, so that players could be separated by distance.

Good idea . Backing here, but no idea how to get started . Perhaps something really positive to unite fans and something to work towards.

That's what MC said last night.

Is it 1 million target? I think it would have to be an ongoing funding campaign over say a 5 year period with various methods of obtaining donations from different targets I.e. fans/sponsors etc.

It wouldn’t be something you could just set up and let ride. There’s need to be constant updates, initiatives, collections etc.

The full figure may not even be required if the club for example may agree to contribute £300k leaving a target of 700k to be raised from donations.

I’m sorry but this raising the cash by fans has to be the joke of the century.

For starters those capable of organising it have had enough after years of fan apathy. I’ll say it now, I challenge those taking this seriously to actually do something about it, words are cheap!

Next we’ve never raised anything close to a million pounds. I reckon if you put all the dinners, WISCA events, fanzine sales etc together for the last 20 years you wouldn’t get near to 10% of that!

Pure fantasy.. Hell we couldn’t even keep a supporters trust running!

So go on stop talking and start a fans organisation. We did it with SWAG so I’ll gladly tell you how to do it. But be prepared to lose the next ten years of your life, get abused, and end up with planks criticising you because you only won the club 12 million.

Over to you Cosmicat and co.

I’m sorry but this raising the cash by fans has to be the joke of the century.

For starters those capable of organising it have had enough after years of fan apathy. I’ll say it now, I challenge those taking this seriously to actually do something about it, words are cheap!

Next we’ve never raised anything close to a million pounds. I reckon if you put all the dinners, WISCA events, fanzine sales etc together for the last 20 years you wouldn’t get near to 10% of that!

Pure fantasy.. Hell we couldn’t even keep a supporters trust running!

So go on stop talking and start a fans organisation. We did it with SWAG so I’ll gladly tell you how to do it. But be prepared to lose the next ten years of your life, get abused, and end up with planks criticising you because you only won the club 12 million.

Over to you Cosmicat and co.

Yeah, that's I'm feeding onto this thread.

Could we not class it as art .If Bankse had done it ,it would be worth a fortune .Enough to build the East stand

What he said.

Just to add there's also the small matter of a cost of living crisis going on as well. Lovely thought but sadly a complete non-starter.

Just proves how poor a decision it was to let rocky leave

I was gutted to see Rocky go

When I heard Lino was coming baring in mind I’d seen him play a fair bit for the knights I was really delighted

Knowing what I know now, Rocky would have being better man for the job and we could have used the os spot on a hooker or prop

Hind sight a great thing

I’d have Rocky back in a heartbeat

He was taylor made for the position, local lad, loved the club, speed to burn with great side steps my only concern was having the confidence in taking control of leadership but that comes with time

Why are we suddenly on a downer re the stadium, just because some arrogant Saints fans take some pictures of a few grotty plastic seats?
The ground is now a building site for heavens sake! Inflation has given us a right kicking, so there's no money left for the western terrace,(if there ever was),so lets tart it up as best we can,camouflage, smoke and mirrors sort of stuff,till there comes a time when we can do it properly.

I'll stay away from the St. Helens away fixture in future if that's there attitude towards us and our club.

We are doing our best to make sure that option will be removed from next years fixtures.

It all goes back to Yorkcourt a promise of a stadium not a new stand and half a revamp bloody tosh

You do it vastman you wear the halo!

Think most fans would especially when you saw the crap Chester brough in to replace him

No I've already done it, or is that another fact that's whistled through your empty head, so I can wear a halo I suppose. Me and the other members of SWAG are very much partly responsible for the 12 million we did actually get, so don't you dare challenge me.

I may not be everyones cup of tea but apart from SWAG, I've helped raise thousands for this club with helping with the Fanzine, the commemorative dinners and countless other things. But that's not good enough for a world class mouth of like you.

So again spell out, what have you EVER done.

Then tell us what you are going to do to raise this million pounds. Should be easy as you're the man with all the answers.

I will now wait for you to come up with the following as it's your turn to be in charge and actually do something instead of slagging off others.

I hope to here in the following weeks that...

1: You've made contact with the club and had your plans sanctioned.

2: You have created a working organisation, with a committee that you have recruited, a website and a members list and a bank account and then registered it as a Trust.

3: You've developed an actual working plan, architects drawings etc. Nobody will give you a penny for something they can't see real plans for.

4: Gained basic planning consent, the club may do that for you but it could take years and many meetings you will have to attend.

5: Recruited a fan based construction group to help build it. That's got you hasn't it! You see the West terrace stand plan I was on about involved a good deal of voluntary labour. If you can't get that then you need to raise at least another half a million, good luck.

Thats just for starters.

I now suggest you go away and change your underpants and give it a rest. Or miracle of miracles you actually do something and make it happen. Of course we all know the answer to that don't we. See you in a few months when you think it's all been forgotten

Any chance of you posting you West side development plans Vastly. I assumed it would have included some voluntary labour and individual s involved with necessary skills.

Unfortunately no.

Effectively these plans belong to the club and as such are confidential. I posted them to PB because he was a SWAG committee man and they were not the full plans. Whilst it's on the back burner for now it may not stay that way.

I can tell you it is a plan specifically designed to be done wherever possible by skilled and especially unskilled volunteers. It's a very basic construction but fit for purpose. Even the materials and equipment used are the sort that you could beg and borrow.

What it shows more than anything is the horrendous costs of construction these days. When planned 300-400k looked possible, Now it's probably double that. Nearly a million pounds for something that will effectively be not much more than we have there now, but all at the right levels, a bit more cover and a hell of a lot neater to look at.

Totally agree.
Was chatting to him on New Years Day in Whitby and said to him then that I (like others) was disappointed he was not staying.
TBH, he was good about it and I wished him all the best.
As has been said hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I'm sure we'd have been better with him here than without him.
He would have definately shown his worth to the team this season thats for sure.

Your talk is crap you endorsed the deal with Yorkcouurt I told you the deal was crap no west terrace no floodlights no training pitch it’s bullocks