Double trouble seems to be a correct title, 5 penalties each half against us means 10 we have to over come, again !
No matter what we do he will find them !

It's possible for the team to be poor AND the ref to be poor

The number of penalties is not an issue. It always gets me when people say it's unfair that the ref gave them more than us or penalised a lot.
If that's how many there are then we need to improve our discipline.

My only issue is inconsistency.

That for me PT is the biggest issue.
It not only drives us mad, it must be the same for players - whichever team it is.
If the refs gave all the same - as has been pointed out with some of the same things Kendal gave & Thaler didnt earlier in the thread, you could accept it.
I get what MC is saying, but I'm sure that he would agree with the pen against Reece was incorrect.....
As much as hate comparing SL with the NRL, im watching the Canberra v Brisbane game and so far the refs have't gave a dodgy decision in either half.

All I know is it's a job I wouldn't like to do!

There's lots of jobs that I wouldn't do either, but that's not an excuse for those that do do the job to do it poorly

You can have all the discipline you want, if a ref wants to penalise, he will ! Let's stop kidding about this whole subject, I have watched most NRL games this season & the refs are way ahead of ours in all aspects, so if they can do it, why the he'll can't ours !!!!!!

Maybe because they have 2 helping each other. We have 1 ref and 2 touch judges who don’t actually do anything just run up and down the line

Bet you've had long arguments over that subject with Chezzy then. Daddycool

Don't think it's particularly symptomatic of today; The referee has come in for severe criticism in all the sixty-odd years that I've been watching the game. Whereas at one time it was more bashing for bashing's sake, but now the standard has become so low that spectators expect someone who can at least do the job right for the amount we have to pay at the turnstiles.

The refs on the NRL are well trained but above all extremely well paid, I believe it a 100k a year job. Tends to attract a lot more able people ready to take the flak at that price.

I don’t think Chester blamed anything much on the ref this week. I think he very much blamed a lack lustre first half.

It not the ref that’s causing us to not start playing for the first 30 minutes, it’s that which is costing us.

Even in our best game against Leeds it took 15 minutes to get going. We will keep getting caught out until we realise that you start to play at minute one.

You can say anything you want about us starting slowly and making mistakes, but the fact remains he made some glaring "errors"and they were all in cas's favour. I can cope with crap refs because they will make mistakes both ways but all the" mistakes" seemed to go against us on Fri. BTW I don't think the pen against Reece when Mcmeekin knocked him over at the PTB can be classed as a mistake.. It was downright cheating or bias

I get this not blaming the ref scenario, they have a tough job when the sky cameras aren’t there and can be excused wrong calls. But the pass to Pauli which hit the Cas lads head was one for the video ref all day long. The question has to be asked why ?? Why ? WHY ? Not use the technology that’s available.

No ! to refs guessing because it makes them look cool because they’ve made a call that that they think they don’t need help on. Use the F. Ing technology to get the correct call ffs. In a tight league these calls with the cameras available need to be looked at. I don’t care who the ref is. RL is all about fine lines and officials need all the help that can get..... so when it’s available..... USE IT !!!

Are you saying he lost us the game? He didn’t in my opinion, we’d have lost even if he’d not made a few errors. We simply didn’t turn up in the first 40 and Cas did. This obsession with blaming the ref is feeding the trolls. As far as I can see we fair no better or worse than any other team, the refs may be poor and I tend to agree that they are but that doesn’t mean we get the results of this any more than anyone else.

If we play the game for 8o minutes I seriously doubt any ref could make enough errors to stop us winning.