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| Quote: kinleycat "The reason the Milan ground share is successful is that they are both successful clubs in their own right and part of the institution of Italian football.
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They also represent the same city, which helps matters no end. Wakefield and Cas are two different places.
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| Quote: Theboyem "The Milan analogy annoys me. That is one example, there are hundreds more to counter it. Why don't Liverpool & Everton share? Man Utd & Man City, Arsenal & Tottenham? Villa & Birmingham? Real & Athletico Madrid? And many, many more. Mainly because they hate each other and want a seperate indentity. Forget sharing it will not work for either side.'"
Hull FC and Hull KR! They have a fantastic stadium they could share - but they don't because it is not culturally acceptable!
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "They also represent the same city, which helps matters no end. Wakefield and Cas are two different places.'"
But to the mass populous they are lumped in with Wakefield, sadly!!
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| Our identities as individual clubs is not as strong i would say as some of the examples given, it is up to us to push our clubs, a real marketing push should be given to the derby games, and hopefully if we are both filling our new stadia for derby games this will help develop the identities further.
A full house at WR or BV goes un-noticed by many, when compared to some other attendances in SL these days.
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| Quote: TRB "Hull FC and Hull KR! They have a fantastic stadium they could share - but they don't because it is not culturally acceptable!'"
Exactly and that is why it will never happen. I for one would never watch a Wakefield side who played out of Glasshoughton and I doubt i'm the only one that thinks that way. And i'm sure many Cas fans feel the same about Newmarket. And as such it just isn't financially viable for either club and so there is where the argument ends.
The argument now is whether the people arguing against Newmarket happening and the people who will ultimately make the decision want the blood on their hands of professional sport in Wakefield.
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| Quote: Theboyem "The argument now is whether the people arguing against Newmarket happening and the people who will ultimately make the decision want the blood on their hands of professional sport in Wakefield.'"
Absolutely spot on - and the reason I argue for caution in terms of dismissing RW's intervention in the PI; this decision is absolutely massive not just for WTW, but for RL at all levels in the Wakefield District.
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| Quote: vastman "I'm not sorry to be rude, this is trolling pure and simple - bore off.'"
I aren't trolling - it's a serious question.
Is our hate for one another going to get us both thrown out of SL just because we can't agree on sharing a Stadium? Come another 2 years will it really matter? Because let's be honest, there's a very good chance niether of us are going to have a Stadium and will most probably get thrown out in favour of Northampton or/and some French club.
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| Quote: TheRevolution "Is our hate for one another going to get us both thrown out of SL just because we can't agree on sharing a Stadium?'"
What stadium are you suggesting 'we' share?
As it stands, both clubs are doing everything in their power to get their own new stadia and are working with partners to deliver what they want.
If WTW suddenly decide they want to share at GH, YorkCourt will not give ten million quid to Cas. If CT suddenly decide they want to share at NM, Opus will not give ten million quid to WTW. Moreover, neither of those fantasy scenarios will do anything to unstick either the PI for NM or the need for a buyer at WR.
Your argument is predicated on a false assumption that deciding to share at one location will solve all the problems of both clubs; it won't and in fact, in the long run, would cause more problems than it resolved.
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| Quote: bren2k "What stadium are you suggesting 'we' share?
As it stands, both clubs are doing everything in their power to get their own new stadia and are working with partners to deliver what they want.
If WTW suddenly decide they want to share at GH, YorkCourt will not give ten million quid to Cas. If CT suddenly decide they want to share at NM, Opus will not give ten million quid to WTW. Moreover, neither of those fantasy scenarios will do anything to unstick either the PI for NM or the need for a buyer at WR.
Your argument is predicated on a false assumption that deciding to share at one location will solve all the problems of both clubs; it won't and in fact, in the long run, would cause more problems than it resolved.'"
i can understand you not wanting to share i wouldnt want to share with hull but this seems to be dragging on neither you or cas seem to be any closer to getting a new stadium i think you will be forced to share in the end to keep in SL which would be a shame because i think you lose your identity when 2 teams share a stadium
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| Quote: fun time frankie "i can understand you not wanting to share i wouldnt want to share with hull but this seems to be dragging on neither you or cas seem to be any closer to getting a new stadium i think you will be forced to share in the end to keep in SL which would be a shame because i think you lose your identity when 2 teams share a stadium'"
How many more times do we have to tell you people.
If the public inquiry rules in our favour it is go for Wakefield.
The funding is all in place.
Wakefield council ruled mindful to approve unanimously.
If it had not been sent to the PI a year we would be well on our way.
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| Quote: fun time frankie "i can understand you not wanting to share i wouldnt want to share with hull but this seems to be dragging on neither you or cas seem to be any closer to getting a new stadium i think you will be forced to share in the end to keep in SL which would be a shame because i think you lose your identity when 2 teams share a stadium'"
TBH we don't know how near or how far away we are from our development happening. Its going throught the public enquiry now and we will have a definite answer by March at the latest. if we get the nod, then at the moment we are very very close to getting our stadium, if however its a no then we're miles away. Don't know how long Cas' will drag on as you correctly put it but our dragging on will only last another 3 and a half months at the most. Nerve wracking times, this decision will shape the future of our club and more than likely its existence. How you can say we are no closer to getting a new stadium is beyond me really, as i said its a yay or a nay in March, if its a yes then the building will be starting a lot sooner than you think!
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| Quote: TheRevolution "I aren't trolling - it's a serious question.
Is our hate for one another going to get us both thrown out of SL just because we can't agree on sharing a Stadium? Come another 2 years will it really matter? Because let's be honest, there's a very good chance niether of us are going to have a Stadium and will most probably get thrown out in favour of Northampton or/and some French club.'"
Our chance is exactly 50% if the enquiry goes in our favour its all systems go, everything is in place. Sounds like we've had another good day at the enquiry today so who knows maybe our chances are growing above the 50% mark, then again the inspectorate might be leaning the other way. 50/50 in true terms, people who have witnessed the enquiry first hand (Inflatable Armadillo The Clan etc) will have a better feel for how things are going. That said i'm sure there'll be a few more bumps on the ride yet!!
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| So say (purely theoretical) a really rich man who loves rugby buys a patch of land in Normanton builds a really fancy 16k stadium and then says i want Wakefield Castleford and Featherstone to have it, for free no strings, one full stand all kitted out with offices and a club shop for Wakefield, another stand for Cas and one of the end stands for Featherstone.
Would you have it?
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| Quote: Horatio Yed "So say (purely theoretical) a really rich man who loves rugby buys a patch of land in Normanton builds a really fancy 16k stadium and then says i want Wakefield Castleford and Featherstone to have it, for free no strings, one full stand all kitted out with offices and a club shop for Wakefield, another stand for Cas and one of the end stands for Featherstone.
Would you have it?'"
theoretically you'd have to be mad to turn it down, no matter who you support! Take the fourth end is for away fans lol
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| Quote: Uptoncat "theoretically you'd have to be mad to turn it down, no matter who you support! Take the fourth end is for away fans lol'"
Yes, would the fans be up for that though or is the rivalry too strong?
You'd have 3 distinctive stands in the colours of the respective clubs and an away end
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