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| Quote: Mary Millington "Look at the whole picture. We made fine signings to start the new season. This is taken away from us. We struggle with, lets be honest, inadequate replacements (but the only players that were available.)
John Kear is not just our coach. He does give us great awareness in the media (Sky, BBC etc.) How many of our other coaches have made it on TV, radio etc covering games.
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Right, chew on this. I'm almost certain that with John in charge, we have a greater chance of a Super League life than without him.
On the field it's awful at the minute. I have every sympathy for paying fans. Do we see the season out? Yes. Will there be playing staff changes for next season. Sure. Will there be a new coach in charge? Not sure. Do we get rid now? No.'"
Others have also stated this!!!
Which begs the question -- why did we allow Catalans to talk to him.
Doesnt make sense if Kear is so integral to our renewal bid.
As for should he stay or go,he should have gone weeks ago.
Outdated coaching methods.
I suggested a repalcement months ago -- Trent Robinson.
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| Quote: Mary Millington "Look at the whole picture. We made fine signings to start the new season. This is taken away from us. We struggle with, lets be honest, inadequate replacements (but the only players that were available.)
John Kear is not just our coach. He does give us great awareness in the media (Sky, BBC etc.) How many of our other coaches have made it on TV, radio etc covering games.
We also need him for our Super League franchise.
Right, chew on this. I'm almost certain that with John in charge, we have a greater chance of a Super League life than without him.
On the field it's awful at the minute. I have every sympathy for paying fans. Do we see the season out? Yes. Will there be playing staff changes for next season. Sure. Will there be a new coach in charge? Not sure. Do we get rid now? No.'"
Hit the nail on the head...Agree 100% !!
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I don't care if we win, lose or draw as long as the team gives 100% every week and each player wears the shirt with pride.: |
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| I like JK and he's done a great job but the big problem with JK is when it goes wrong he seems unable to turn things around.
The other issue that concerns me more is how for the last 2 seasons especially, come the business end of the season we have fallen away badly. More so this time and far earlier than previously.
Can he turn it around before the end of the season? I don't think he can.
Give him until the end of the season then judge him? Surely we have seen enough over the last 3/4 seasons to make that call now.
For me, give a new man the chance to review what he's got and hopefully give the team the kick up the backside it currently needs and who knows we may still have a small chance of making the 8.
I think JK's lost the changing room, player's don't seem to be playing for him and results are simply not good enough.
Time for a change for me as harsh and upsetting as it may be.
Sorry JK, thanks for the memories but enough is enough as far as I am concerned.
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| If we sack JK and I dont think we would be daft enough it would end my 35 year support of the club and no i am not bulls@iting it would be over
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I don't care if we win, lose or draw as long as the team gives 100% every week and each player wears the shirt with pride.: |
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| You say that but 1 week ago JK was ready to down tools and walk away from the club to France....
So it's ok for him to dump the club but not the other way round....?
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| Quote: Come On The Trin "You say that but 1 week ago JK was ready to down tools and walk away from the club to France....
So it's ok for him to dump the club but not the other way round....?'"
If JK decided to go who could blame him Ted Richardson & CO must be a bloody nightmare to work under they are bloody useless just like Woodward was and all the bloody rest what we need at Wakefield is a competent board something we have lacked for 40 years.
But no I am sorry after all he has done for this club to sack him for a poor 12 match run would be so wrong
Is it his fault Newton was a complete k@ob was it his fault Tronc was a pussy was it his fault Brough wanted more money than he was worth or the club could afford is it this fault we spend nowhere near the salary cap or the general public in Wakefield could not give a toss about professional rugby league or Wakefield Trinity
I bet you the likes of Tony Smith or that idiot at Bradford could not get Wakefield anywhere near the play offs with the very limited resources Jk has to work with
I feel very strongly about this John Kears only error for me was the signing of Paul Cooke
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| Definitley stay
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| Quote: GET EM ON SIDE REF "If JK decided to go who could blame him Ted Richardson & CO must be a bloody nightmare to work under they are bloody useless just like Woodward was and all the bloody rest what we need at Wakefield is a competent board something we have lacked for 40 years.
But no I am sorry after all he has done for this club to sack him for a poor 12 match run would be so wrong
Is it his fault Newton was a complete k@ob was it his fault Tronc was a pussy was it his fault Brough wanted more money than he was worth or the club could afford is it this fault we spend nowhere near the salary cap or the general public in Wakefield could not give a toss about professional rugby league or Wakefield Trinity
I bet you the likes of Tony Smith or that idiot at Bradford could not get Wakefield anywhere near the play offs with the very limited resources Jk has to work with
I feel very strongly about this John Kears only error for me was the signing of Paul Cooke'"
Its fine to state all the things that arent Kears fault and i do think the gods have conspired ever so slightly agianst him.
However,its Kear that has blundered time and again with some mind boggling team selections.
Was Henderson injured yesterday,im unsure,but he deserved a place infront of quite a few others.
Its Kear that is coaching a mind numbingly boring 5 drives and a kick style rugby.We rarely string more than 2 passes together in a set until the fourth tackle.
We looked so clueless on attack yesterday,in the first half we had 3/4 sets on the HKR line,no guile,no ideas,the result Cooke throws a long pass for the interception.
Its Kears players that look lethargic and unfit.
Its Kears coaching methods that are out dated.
Its Kears team that isnt producing the goods in either desire or application.
I dont disagree that his budget is limited and quite frankly you cant polish a turd,however, Kear had a track record for getting better than average out of average players.We still on the whole have the same average players,but Kear is now getting below average out of these average players.
Thanks for your efforts John,but time to move on.
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well let it continue if thats what you want
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| Stay for me,but one of the big things this season is the fitness of the team,a change in fitness coach is needed.The amount of games we should of won but lost in the last 5 -10 minutes due to not been fit enough, twice v Leeds,Catalans,Bradford,Hull and probably a few more I've forgotten,that's 10 points further up the table and puts a whole different slant on the season.
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| Won't come as a suprise that its a go for me. He was on his way to Catalans until the compo issue arose.
His committment was clearly not there and we shouldn't be left as second best.
He is the coach and signed the players and picks the team and is responsible for training and tactics. We are going backwards after much good progression under Kear in the past three seasons.
He should do the honourable thing and step down
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| definitely stay for me. i can honestly say that if i could choose from any coach in sl i would stick with jk as someone said earlier the poll speak for itself. nice to see people with their own opinions not just going along with those that shout loudest.
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| Quote: GET EM ON SIDE REF "If JK decided to go who could blame him Ted Richardson & CO must be a bloody nightmare to work under they are bloody useless just like Woodward was and all the bloody rest what we need at Wakefield is a competent board something we have lacked for 40 years.
But no I am sorry after all he has done for this club to sack him for a poor 12 match run would be so wrong
Is it his fault Newton was a complete k@ob was it his fault Tronc was a pussy was it his fault Brough wanted more money than he was worth or the club could afford is it this fault we spend nowhere near the salary cap or the general public in Wakefield could not give a toss about professional rugby league or Wakefield Trinity
I bet you the likes of Tony Smith or that idiot at Bradford could not get Wakefield anywhere near the play offs with the very limited resources Jk has to work with
I feel very strongly about this John Kears only error for me was the signing of Paul Cooke'"
Reference player recruitment, Kear can't have it both ways. You take a punt and sign lose cannons like Broughy and Newton then you run the risk of them doing something stupid, it has been apparent for years that neither of them where wired up right. Wasn't there even a rumor floating about a while back that Tronc had been homesick before?
If those 3 had have powered us into the top 4 then you would be (rightly so) heaping the praise on Kear in a similar way he takes the credit for the successes of signing the unwanted such as Blaymire, Moore & maybe even Paul King. You can't take the glory when it works but say "how was he supposed to know?" if it goes shaped with one of his recruits.
It works both ways in my opinion.
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| at this moment in time he is the best coach we can afford,
it would be utter madness to allow him to go as he has a higher profile in the tv light than others that could replace him,
I know you would like him to go mopsey but I think we would shoot our selves in the foot if we couldn't continue with the plan, and that's the next franchise and the new stadium
Kear has my backing all the way
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