FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > Relegation Thoughts
178 posts in 13 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
RankPostsTeam
International Star10464
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2023Dec 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
60098_1402496159.jpg
the future's bright the future's [color=#800000:1p3f9jf7]claret [/color:1p3f9jf7] and [color=#FFFF40:1p3f9jf7]gold [/color:1p3f9jf7]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_60098.jpg



Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "Don't remember him stand out for Leigh nor Shudds?
Been playing in French 2nd Tier so hardly a marquee signing but still probably better than Hood.
Peats was an excellent hooker for us, we would have liked to have kept him, and Watson said as much unfortunately could not keep him due to the fact we had no overseas spots available as we had already signed Levi which took up that last spot.
Not a ball runner but he is an excellent ball distributer, a solid tackler and has a very shrewd head on his shoulders. Definitely better than what you have.

RankPostsTeam
International Star5260
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201411 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Black Backgrounds/Sam%20the%20Eagle.gif
:Black Backgrounds/Sam%20the%20Eagle.gif



It is better to stay in SL when you are in and it is not too late for us. To do so however requires money to be spent even if it makes us break our own budget. With relegation comes a large reduction in central funding, lower attendances and having to restart from scratch. It will then take several seasons to get back up but like most we would just go back down.
The club can risk money now to gain a more secure future in SL or carry on and probably have the notoriety of doing what many have tried to do before and see us relegated.
I would also add that the loan would be easier to service in SL than the finances in the Championship.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4130No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
34595_1297504122.jpg
[color=#BF0000:1qi6asc8]WAKEFIELD FANS ARE BORN, NOT MANUFACTURED.WE DO NOT CHOOSE, WE ARE CHOSEN. THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND NEED NO EXPLANATION. THOSE WHO DONT, DONT MATTER.[/color:1qi6asc8] [color=#0000FF:1qi6asc8]I AM THE SEEKER OF TRUTH AND JUSTICE[/color:1qi6asc8]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_34595.jpg



Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "It is better to stay in SL when you are in and it is not too late for us. To do so however requires money to be spent even if it makes us break our own budget. With relegation comes a large reduction in central funding, lower attendances and having to restart from scratch. It will then take several seasons to get back up but like most we would just go back down.
The club can risk money now to gain a more secure future in SL or carry on and probably have the notoriety of doing what many have tried to do before and see us relegated.'"
my understanding is the club is about 4.5 million in debt this is made up of directors loans and the council loan.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach36101
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10363_1334937642.jpg
SUPPORT SWAG...:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10363.jpg



Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "my understanding is the club is about 4.5 million in debt this is made up of directors loans and the council loan.'"


The council loan is a mortgage set against land that has increased in value. A debt but a hugely positive one.

There are no real directors loans. MC is the sole owner so he can’t really be in debt to himself. That’s not to say he wouldn’t want any money back that he has forwarded the club but I suspect there is no rush as I know for a fact that it’s tiny. I think Glover is still in the mix somewhere but again it’s not huge.

The club is slimmed down with minimum debts almost certainly the lowest in SL and some championship clubs and a new revenue ground development soon to be on tap.

My guess is MC wants out and who can blame him the lack of gratitude he gets.

My guess is he aims to make the club as saleable as possible, whether that means SL or the championship. Whichever the club will look an attractive buy to any new owner.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach6981No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

Top six 2005 - Trinity.:



Quote: vastman "The council loan is a mortgage set against land that has increased in value. A debt but a hugely positive one.

There are no real directors loans. MC is the sole owner so he can’t really be in debt to himself. That’s not to say he wouldn’t want any money back that he has forwarded the club but I suspect there is no rush as I know for a fact that it’s tiny. I think Glover is still in the mix somewhere but again it’s not huge.

The club is slimmed down with minimum debts almost certainly the lowest in SL and some championship clubs and a new revenue ground development soon to be on tap.

My guess is MC wants out and who can blame him the lack of gratitude he gets.

My guess is he aims to make the club as saleable as possible, whether that means SL or the championship. Whichever the club will look an attractive buy to any new owner.'"


That’s the impression I get that MC wants out. That’s just a guess ofcourse but since Chester has left I don’t think we have heard a peep from him. I still thank him for all he’s done for the club and he may once the stadium is built regather some interest to drive the club forwards. This new east stand will certainly change the shape of the club.

I know this is a bit extreme but if we were to get an investor like Koukash on board this club could radically transform on and off the field imho.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2990
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: vastman "The council loan is a mortgage set against land that has increased in value. A debt but a hugely positive one.

There are no real directors loans. MC is the sole owner so he can’t really be in debt to himself. That’s not to say he wouldn’t want any money back that he has forwarded the club but I suspect there is no rush as I know for a fact that it’s tiny. I think Glover is still in the mix somewhere but again it’s not huge.

The club is slimmed down with minimum debts almost certainly the lowest in SL and some championship clubs and a new revenue ground development soon to be on tap.

My guess is MC wants out and who can blame him the lack of gratitude he gets.

My guess is he aims to make the club as saleable as possible, whether that means SL or the championship. Whichever the club will look an attractive buy to any new owner.'"


MC isn’t the sole owner.
From memory MC and JM are the joint majority shareholders.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1559No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 201410 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2023Feb 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: vastman "The council loan is a mortgage set against land that has increased in value. A debt but a hugely positive one.

There are no real directors loans. MC is the sole owner so he can’t really be in debt to himself. That’s not to say he wouldn’t want any money back that he has forwarded the club but I suspect there is no rush as I know for a fact that it’s tiny. I think Glover is still in the mix somewhere but again it’s not huge.

The club is slimmed down with minimum debts almost certainly the lowest in SL and some championship clubs and a new revenue ground development soon to be on tap.

My guess is MC wants out and who can blame him the lack of gratitude he gets.

My guess is he aims to make the club as saleable as possible, whether that means SL or the championship. Whichever the club will look an attractive buy to any new owner.'"

No your guessing again,you don’t know so bloody zip it

RankPostsTeam
Moderator21024
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41119.jpg
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha:41119.jpg

Moderator


Quote: cosmicat "No your guessing again,you don’t know so bloody zip it'"


He actually said twice that he was guessing.
And it's not your call about what someone else posts.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11902No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
White Backgrounds/Statler.gif
:White Backgrounds/Statler.gif



Careful Poptart don’t upset him he’s been on Crimewatch!

RankPostsTeam
International Star1559No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 201410 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2023Feb 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: PopTart "He actually said twice that he was guessing.
And it's not your call about what someone else posts.'"

But it’s ok when he slanders everybody else?

RankPostsTeam
International Star1559No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 201410 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2023Feb 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: PopTart "He actually said twice that he was guessing.
And it's not your call about what someone else posts.'"

But it’s ok when he slanders everybody else?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11580
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Sep 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: cosmicat "But it’s ok when he slanders everybody else?'"

Not if he's telling the truth icon_biggrin.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Star5260
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201411 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Black Backgrounds/Sam%20the%20Eagle.gif
:Black Backgrounds/Sam%20the%20Eagle.gif



Quote: chissitt "Not if he's telling the truth
If he is that means the club is being run for the benefit of the owner to maximise his financial return rather than for Wakefield Trinity and by association the supporters.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator21024
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41119.jpg
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha:41119.jpg

Moderator


Quote: cosmicat "But it’s ok when he slanders everybody else?'"


Not sure where the slander was. Point it out If you want to make s complaint.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach36101
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10363_1334937642.jpg
SUPPORT SWAG...:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10363.jpg



Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "If he is that means the club is being run for the benefit of the owner to maximise his financial return rather than for Wakefield
Trinity and by association the supporters.'"


Give it a rest, MC will never see a penny from the club, you know exactly what I mean as unlike the village idiot I don’t think you’re stupid.

What I suspect MC wants is to create a club that is attractive to someone else. One with a decent set of finances and a good infrastructure. I don’t think supporters can ask for more. If MC wants out and he’s totally entitled to do so he will be the first Owner to pass it on in good shape since Neil Fox was a boy.

178 posts in 13 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
178 posts in 13 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.9833984375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Transfer Talk V5
fanstanningl
501
18m
Film game
Boss Hog
5622
37m
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
54m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
ArthurClues
9
54m
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
Recent
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
Recent
Salford
karetaker
9
Recent
War of the Roses
ratticusfinc
30
Recent
Catalan Away
jonh
5
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Marcus's Bic
4011
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
1m
Pre Season - 2025
number 6
182
1m
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
ArthurClues
9
2m
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
192
2m
Catalan Away
jonh
5
2m
War of the Roses
ratticusfinc
30
4m
Dual Reg
financialtim
6
5m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40731
5m
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
9
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
318
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
508
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1258
England's Women Demolish The W..
1085
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1322
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1113
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1371
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1915
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2133
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2375
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1947
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2184
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2649
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2078
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2155
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,758 ↑580,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
 Sat 8th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Catalans
v
Leeds
 Sun 9th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Warrington
v
Wakefield
17:30
Wigan
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 20th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
Salford
v
Huddersfield
 Fri 21st Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
St.Helens
v
Warrington
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Transfer Talk V5
fanstanningl
501
18m
Film game
Boss Hog
5622
37m
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
54m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
ArthurClues
9
54m
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
Recent
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
Recent
Salford
karetaker
9
Recent
War of the Roses
ratticusfinc
30
Recent
Catalan Away
jonh
5
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Marcus's Bic
4011
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
1m
Pre Season - 2025
number 6
182
1m
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
ArthurClues
9
2m
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
192
2m
Catalan Away
jonh
5
2m
War of the Roses
ratticusfinc
30
4m
Dual Reg
financialtim
6
5m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40731
5m
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
9
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
318
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
508
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1258
England's Women Demolish The W..
1085
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1322
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1113
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1371
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1915
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2133
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2375
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1947
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2184
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2649
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2078
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2155


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!