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| Quote ="jonh"Not missed the point at all.
Unfortunately you are speaking from a position of ignorance on this, I am not.
Wakefield don’t get the pick of local juniors as it is.
We have to cope with Wigan, Warrington, Saints, Leeds already raiding the local clubs. If they offer Wakefield juniors positions 99% of the time they go.
I can name a number of local juniors from the crop of 13s this year who have chosen to do so. Wakefield supporters too.
We develop players rather than bring in the stars.
The system works at Trinity.
If we go down the system will continue to work.
Being in the lower division probably provides an easier pathway to first team rugby however that becomes problematic if we don’t bounce back fairly quickly.
The statement last night, if it was made as being reported, is very dangerous and has already caused quite a bit of concern within our junior playing ranks.'"
I'm saying as are a few others that you missed the point but it seems you can't admit it as usual.
He didn't say he'd disband it he said it would go to pot and if you can't work out what that means then you mate are clearly the ignorant one.
The rest of it was what I'd do but I happily admit that I am not a self proclaimed expert, unlike yourself, so it's purely an opinion.
Sounds to me like you've got a vested interest way beyond the average fan, interesting.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"The line as I recall was more like 10 years of work building the academy down the pan and linked with the fact that all our guys are on Super League contracts and that the club had already warned off approaches for some of our younger squad members.'"
However Chinese whispers has now kicked in and it is being reported that we won’t run an Academy.
Very dangerous, especially with a view to the next intake of scholars.
Hopefully the club nip that in the bud with a formal statement.
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| Quote ="jonh"Why would the Academy be disbanded should we be relegated?
This makes no sense at all.
The Academy was granted a 4 year (I think) license last year which guaranteed them a place in the elite Academy until at least 2027.
This includes the funding to do so.
Should we go down that pathway would be crucial to the future of the club so I am very confused as to why the club leadership of the club are planning on winding it up should we drop down a division.'"
A point of note here, the elite academies come with a set amount of funding, they are not necessarily fully funded. Most clubs including us tend to ‘top up’ the funds with their own money which makes a big difference. It’s something i doubt we could afford to do if relegated so would have to run a lower standard academy using just the central funds, that is unless the rule still exists where you have match fund the monies given to you then this probably wouldn’t be possible either. We’d likely just run a development academy as teams like Leigh & Salford do now in that case. Either way all our top talent would depart.
I’d also imagine we’d cut the reserve team as well. It’s not a requirement to have one in the championship.
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| Quote ="vastman"I'm saying as are a few others that you missed the point but it seems you can't admit it as usual.
He didn't say he'd disband it he said it would go to pot and if you can't work out what that means then you mate are clearly the ignorant one.
The rest of it was what I'd do but I happily admit that I am not a self proclaimed expert, unlike yourself, so it's purely an opinion.
Sounds to me like you've got a vested interest way beyond the average fan, interesting.'"
I didn’t miss the point I am responding to what was mentioned on here and is flying all round social media.
I was not there last night as I was out investing in the future of the game and club.
I’m not a self professed expert on junior development. I’m a qualified expert with many years experience in the field.
I’m also currently managing a damage limitation exercise because of how the comments were interpreted and are being reported.
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| Quote ="alegend"Mr Carter did say if some one had a spare 300 ,000 £ he could do some thing with the West stand ,As the ground upgrade is costing one and a quarter pound above the 12, million .due to the cost of covid .Salford now spend more on sallery cap than we do'"
300k and the west stand could be improved
I’d love to see how that looked on paper
If I ever get a lotto win I’d be happy to fund that
Brill that mc has at least looked in to it though
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Just going back to the East, West, North & South debate....
Yes defo East stand first.
Then for me (if we are in SL) it should be West before North.
I say that with the view of you only get one chance to make a first impression.
Away fans will first see the new East stand and then look at what they have to still put up with.
A refurbed West stand would look much better to me.
For me North & South can stay as they are.'"
You cant do it that way because the North stand is a safety hazard and as we know has been closed once and has required numerous bits of remedial work. It also has a reduced capacity due to the above. The west stand even with a modest refurb will not make up for the loss of capacity o the North. When complete I'd guess the North stand will make up 50% of our capacity, all tip top and under cover (mostly).
I get what you mean from a viewing/how it looks perspective but economically its the North stand that needs sorting first.
I have a work mate who always fancies coming along but I won't bring him until the North stand is sorted regardless as to how we are playing. He's only ever been to top class Soccer stadiums and I know he just doesn't grasp how bad BV is and the the North stand terracing in particular. He will take one look at it as it is now, stifle his horror and never come again. I know it will hardly Wembley after the refit but at least it will be need and level and look like someone has actually cared about it. 
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| Quote ="jonh"I didn’t miss the point I am responding to what was mentioned on here and is flying all round social media.
I was not there last night as I was out investing in the future of the game and club.
I’m not a self professed expert on junior development. I’m a qualified expert with many years experience in the field.
I’m also currently managing a damage limitation exercise because of how the comments were interpreted and are being reported.'"
Well that's great, and you may be right. But I think it's fairly obvious that any prolonged period of time in the Championship would see our academy suffer, especially if we had less prudent owners in the future. 3 years is not a long time, hell it's nearly that long since we played well! Once that funding comes up for renewal I wouldn't like to bet that we'd keep it, would you?
As for comments being misinterpreted, welcome to the modern world. People will do that these days with single syllable answers to the most innocent of questions. It's why the world is in such a mess. Nothing you can do, people will always say the odd gaff, but being human is no longer allowed.
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| It's a strange old world.
We are on the brink of having a new main stand, a re-vamped North Stand and still people aren't happy.
I know it's not the shiny new ground that was promised at Newmarket but, it's one hell of a lot more than we've had and will be a MASSIVE improvement on BV.
I get the issues about away fans and the need to do something with the Western Terrace but, as with Headingley, lets look after Trinity fans first
and foremost.
IF we can survive in SL this season, there should be a real feel good factor about the place.
It's the clubs 150th anniversary next season and we should all be celebrating this and with some 21st century facilities finally on their way, the club will be in better shape than its been for half a century.
This is why it's so important that we remain in SL. There is a real chance for the club to move forward and not languish at the bottom of the SL pile as also rans.
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| Quote ="jonh"I didn’t miss the point I am responding to what was mentioned on here and is flying all round social media.
I was not there last night as I was out investing in the future of the game and club.
I’m not a self professed expert on junior development. I’m a qualified expert with many years experience in the field.
I’m also currently managing a damage limitation exercise because of how the comments were interpreted and are being reported.'"
John, it seems you are closely connected to the Academy, perhaps you can contact MC directly by club email or on the telephone. MC may have given last night’s audience the wrong impression, but you clearly need the full facts. I certainly hope I’ve not caused concerns to anyone especially involved with the Academy.
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| If they just flatten the West stand and built a toilet block it would look better than it does now
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| The west stand shouldn’t take much doing, new terracing, extend the roof the full length of the terracing and have a proper gantry built for tv coverage. Easy.
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| Quote ="JINJER"The west stand shouldn’t take much doing, new terracing, extend the roof the full length of the terracing and have a proper gantry built for tv coverage. Easy.'"
I have the plans right in front of me for doing just that. A year ago it would have cost half a million which we might have been able to fudge from the 12 million. A year on it would cost nearer a million and we don't have a spare penny thanks to Putin and Covid. 
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| Quote ="vastman"I have the plans right in front of me for doing just that. A year ago it would have cost half a million which we might have been able to fudge from the 12 million. A year on it would cost nearer a million and we don't have a spare penny thanks to Putin and Covid.
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Let’s hope we can find some investment once this east stand is done for that. It would transform the stadium no doubt especially from the east stand looking at the west.
Hopefully new dug out shelters and seating are included lol
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"John, it seems you are closely connected to the Academy, perhaps you can contact MC directly by club email or on the telephone. MC may have given last night’s audience the wrong impression, but you clearly need the full facts. I certainly hope I’ve not caused concerns to anyone especially involved with the Academy.'"
Time will tell regarding the academy its somthing that i am concerned about due to my lad been first year academy and seeing him progress in last 12 months like he as i can only hope its keeps going and i say that cos lads do improve massively,i dont know what will happen nor will i ask the question i do know lads are signing on from end of scolaship.
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Time will tell regarding the academy its somthing that i am concerned about due to my lad been first year academy and seeing him progress in last 12 months like he as i can only hope its keeps going and i say that cos lads do improve massively,i dont know what will happen nor will i ask the question i do know lads are signing on from end of scolaship.'"
If we stay in SL, there wont be a problem. Let's hope we can secure our spot a.s.a.p.
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| Quote ="vastman"I have the plans right in front of me for doing just that. A year ago it would have cost half a million which we might have been able to fudge from the 12 million. A year on it would cost nearer a million and we don't have a spare penny thanks to Putin and Covid.
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Mr Carter said last night if the covid had not come along there would have been enough £ to do the West stand It sounded like they are working there but of to make us proud of the club can not understand why some fans are still unhappy.
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| Quote ="alegend"Mr Carter said last night if the covid had not come along there would have been enough £ to do the West stand It sounded like they are working there but of to make us proud of the club[u cannot understand why some fans are still unhappy.[/u'"
If some of the fans on here won the lottery, they'd complain if it wasn't a rollover.
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| Was there any discussion on new proposed two leagues of 10?
My understanding is this is happening after next season
Realistically we’ll be in the new championship 1 as it stands unless we can get shut of the two French clubs
Absolutely stupid idea but it’s RL so almost nailed on to happen
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| Quote ="musson"Was there any discussion on new proposed two leagues of 10?
My understanding is this is happening after next season
Realistically we’ll be in the new championship 1 as it stands unless we can get shut of the two French clubs
Absolutely stupid idea but it’s RL so almost nailed on to happen'"
No discussion about that point, but there was talk of IMGs involvement.
IMG are NOT happy with how a couple of clubs have behaved in public recently.
Also, the coaches group have had meetings with IMG to express opinions.
MC (and other clubs), are unhappy that IMG are talking to clubs en masse, rather than individual meetings with clubs.
Said IMG have said they will involve all stakeholders inc fans - but no-one has been told how/when this will happen.
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| Quote ="alegend"Mr Carter said last night if the covid had not come along there would have been enough £ to do the West stand It sounded like they are working there but of to make us proud of the club can not understand why some fans are still unhappy.'"
The increase in cost of the project since covid was put at £1.8m.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Let’s hope we can find some investment once this east stand is done for that. It would transform the stadium no doubt especially from the east stand looking at the west.
Hopefully new dug out shelters and seating are included lol'"
There are no dug outs as such, if you look on the plans they are all part of the east stand, like at modern football ground. Still wouldn't be good enough for saints!
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| Quote ="vastman"There are no dug outs as such, if you look on the plans they are all part of the east stand, like at modern football ground. Still wouldn't be good enough for saints!'"
I'm sure Saints media will find something wrong with it!
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| Quote ="dboy"No discussion about that point, but there was talk of IMGs involvement.
[uIMG are happy with how a couple of clubs have behaved in public recently[/u.
Also, the coaches group have had meetings with IMG to express opinions.
MC (and other clubs), are unhappy that IMG are talking to clubs en masse, rather than individual meetings with clubs.
Said IMG have said they will involve all stakeholders inc fans - but no-one has been told how/when this will happen.'"
Do you mean that they are happy or they are not happy with how a couple of clubs have behaved? Was there any expansion on this?
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| Quote ="phe13"Do you mean that they are happy or they are not happy with how a couple of clubs have behaved? Was there any expansion on this?'"
Oops, yes NOT happy.
No real expansion, but did fleetingly mention Chairmen offering to fight fans.
MC almost let something really juicy slip, but they moved on rapidly - and I can't for the life of me remember what it was!
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| Quote ="phe13"Do you mean that they are happy or they are not happy with how a couple of clubs have behaved? Was there any expansion on this?'"
It was brought up at the meeting about the official Saints twitter page showing the dugout area with the chairs. I personally was appalled at their unprofessionalism and the comments of a number of fans from other clubs mocking the club.
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