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| Quote: Dettoriman "All pay as you play deals will have a minimum value, Could be say £20k .. And then he earns so much per game on top. Obviously the figures arent accurate, but his wage does depend on how many appearences he makes'"
Just out of interest if Fozzard is on a pay as you play deal as you claim, how does this fit in with the salary cap???
As you have said yourself it could be as little as £20k but there is obviously a possibility of it being so much more. |
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| Quote: trinfan71 "Just out of interest if Fozzard is on a pay as you play deal as you claim, how does this fit in with the salary cap???
As you have said yourself it could be as little as £20k but there is obviously a possibility of it being so much more.'"
They could make the allowance for him playing ALL matches and meet the salary cap, so if he doesn't play all games, then they have money spare. I guess it is very much like someone having a basic salary and commission on top (pay as you play). |
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| Quote: Herbert Splatt "They could make the allowance for him playing ALL matches and meet the salary cap, so if he doesn't play all games, then they have money spare. I guess it is very much like someone having a basic salary and commission on top (pay as you play).'"
So why sign a player on a pay as you play if you are going to make provisions for playing every game? I am sorry but that makes no sense. |
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[b:3diuzizv][color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]WAKEFIELD[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]TRINITY[/color:3diuzizv] - [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]The[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]PRIDE[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]of[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]Sporting[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]Wakefield[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv]
[b:3diuzizv][color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_14911.jpg |
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| Quote: trinfan71 "So why sign a player on a pay as you play if you are going to make provisions for playing every game? I am sorry but that makes no sense.'"
Why?
They have to account for it on the salary cap in case he does play every game.
If he doesn't they save some money, and are below what they predicted for cap spend.
Not sure which bit doesn't make sense.......other than signing the dinosaur in the first place  |
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[b:x70mwo3o]my girlfriend says i'm immature, and it's time we set aside one day a week so we can talk things through as adults.
like THAT'S gonna happen in the middle of conker season!![/b:x70mwo3o]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51886.jpg |
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| Quote: Fordy "Why?
They have to account for it on the salary cap in case he does play every game.
If he doesn't they save some money, and are below what they predicted for cap spend.
Not sure which bit doesn't make sense.......other than signing the dinosaur in the first place ![]()
The same dinosaur you tried to get , but he turned you down, local boy too ... hmm
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[b:3diuzizv][color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]WAKEFIELD[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]TRINITY[/color:3diuzizv] - [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]The[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]PRIDE[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]of[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]Sporting[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]Wakefield[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv]
[b:3diuzizv][color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_14911.jpg |
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| Quote: ambernotyeller "The same dinosaur you tried to get , but he turned you down, local boy too ... hmm
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Maybe we did, doesn't mean I can't call him a dinosaur.
Quite frankly I'm glad he turned us down (if that's what happened). Not a player I would be happy if we had signed to be honest so take that back to your pit village and shove it where the sun don't shine.
But thanks for your input as always, you always add so much to every debate.
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[b:x70mwo3o]my girlfriend says i'm immature, and it's time we set aside one day a week so we can talk things through as adults.
like THAT'S gonna happen in the middle of conker season!![/b:x70mwo3o]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51886.jpg |
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| Quote: Fordy "Maybe we did, doesn't mean I can't call him a dinosaur.
Quite frankly I'm glad he turned us down (if that's what happened). Not a player I would be happy if we had signed to be honest so take that back to your pit village and shove it where the sun don't shine.
But thanks for your input as always, you always add so much to every debate.'"
Sorry if youre offended, lets see how the dinosaur goes then.
When did being ignorant qualify for a debate ? ....................... just asking.
time for that chip removing from your shoulder sonny
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| Quote: ambernotyeller "Sorry if youre offended, lets see how the dinosaur goes then.
When did being ignorant qualify for a debate ? ....................... just asking.
time for that chip removing from your shoulder sonny
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No chip on my shoulder, just fed up of you thinking you know everything about Wakey.
FWIW I think if you've got him on the pay per play deal everyone says then it is reasonable business but as I said he's not a player I would have wanted us to sign.
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| Quote: Fordy "Why?
They have to account for it on the salary cap in case he does play every game.
If he doesn't they save some money, and are below what they predicted for cap spend.
Not sure which bit doesn't make sense.......other than signing the dinosaur in the first place ![]()
It is freezing money that (in all fairness to Cas and other clubs) could be put to better use and reduces your salary cap spend by taking a chance on a maybe. That's what doesn't make sense.
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| Quote: ambernotyeller "The same dinosaur you tried to get , but he turned you down, local boy too ... hmm
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Yeah we get, we got it first time we were told he turned us down and surprise surprise WE STILL GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Are Cas spending all the way up to the limit though? By leaving a small allowance in the cap available, it gives the option of playing him every game if needed/possible.
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[b:x70mwo3o]my girlfriend says i'm immature, and it's time we set aside one day a week so we can talk things through as adults.
like THAT'S gonna happen in the middle of conker season!![/b:x70mwo3o]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51886.jpg |
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| Quote: Herbert Splatt "Are Cas spending all the way up to the limit though? By leaving a small allowance in the cap available, it gives the option of playing him every game if needed/possible.'"
Bless ya , if you think we can spend up to the limit, were solvent but not by much
Isnt it funny how peoples views of a player alter depending on where he signs
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| Quote: ambernotyeller "Bless ya , if you think we can spend up to the limit, were solvent but not by much
Isnt it funny how peoples views of a player alter depending on where he signs
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To be fair St Helens fans have said he's gash for a while. I'm not sure what you're looking for? Fozzard use to be a uesful prop, however, time takes it toll on everyone. He'll probably only be 5th or 6th choice prop and just help take a little burden of the younger props.
I'm glad we haven't signed him, but a pay as you play contract isn't such a bad deal
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[b:x70mwo3o]my girlfriend says i'm immature, and it's time we set aside one day a week so we can talk things through as adults.
like THAT'S gonna happen in the middle of conker season!![/b:x70mwo3o]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51886.jpg |
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| Quote: Trinity Till Death "To be fair St Helens fans have said he's gash for a while. I'm not sure what you're looking for? Fozzard use to be a uesful prop, however, time takes it toll on everyone. He'll probably only be 5th or 6th choice prop and just help take a little burden of the younger props.
I'm glad we haven't signed him, but a pay as you play contract isn't such a bad deal'"
If he can pass a bit of nous to the young uns and put a few 15 minute spells in when needed he will be worth it,
You just dont become a bad player, just a slower player, but if the heads right ........................ who needs that pace when you have young uns to do all the running about.
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| Quote: ambernotyeller "Bless ya , if you think we can spend up to the limit, were solvent but not by much
Isnt it funny how peoples views of a player alter depending on where he signs
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I don't know who is just under the cap and who is far from it. I don't have any opinions on Cas's finances at all, I was just answering someone else who was wondering how they would theoretically fit his pay as you play wages under the cap - and even then with a rolling salary cap teams aren't able to get over the limit as they are monitored by the RFL. Nothing to worry about it that sense in my book.
If Fozzard chose to play for Cas rather than Wakey then fine, he has to do what is best for him and his family. I'll never a criticise a player for that. Not all Wakey fans are so tribal as some on here, as is the case with all other clubs. Players have to chose what they see fit at the time, especially when coming to last few years of their career.
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