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| Quote: Fordy "If it's true that he's signed for Cas next season then we should just play Brad Walker there for the rest of the season IMO. The lad has done really well in every game he has played (which hasn't been nearly enough in my eyes).
Club captain or not, if he's not here next year and not doing it this year then drop him and play someone who might be with us and looks to have a decent game in him.'"
We have to win some games though and dropping players for less effective isn't an option . Walker is too slow to play half back or hooker imo
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| Quote: Pat Bateman "I suppose every signing has it’s unknown quantities about the. Gale and Austin are shadows of their respective selves and ageing so personally I’d not be happy if we signed either. I rate Ratchford, again he’s ageing. Not seen much of Cogger, only he dropped a goal against Toulouse last week.MC and Poching will get Multiple players names sent to them by agents on the daily, we got offered Corey Norman months ago. We simply just need to start winning, to not only restore the fans confidence, but our potential future players confidence in actually signing for us.'" ]
I watched the game on Friday between the Giants and Toulouse, a dire game all round, except for Corey Norman he was a class act head and shoulder's above anything else that was on show that night. Once he had settled down into his game he was fantastic his kicking out of hand was exceptional, looks like Toulouse have got a good signing there.
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| Cogger is bang average, definitely not an improvement on Miller, and wouldn't stand out even in the championship
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| No matter what ,we will still get more agents touting their players in the coming months looking to secure a contract for their clients whether that’s looking for long term at wakefield or simply a foothold into super league is solely down to our performances going forwards for me . It’s the board and coaches job to sift through the flotsam and jetsam and bring hunger back into the club in the form of players either from overseas or domestic who can have a positive impact on the field and the dressing room . We have to at all cost change the culture and mindset at the club for us to be a more competitive force in super league. Player will come don’t worry and we may yet unearth a gem ,you’d be hard pressed to pick up players as poor as our last incomings ,with hall being the exception and the jury out on Butler
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| Quote: Waterloo Winger "I watched the game on Friday between the Giants and Toulouse, a dire game all round, except for Corey Norman he was a class act head and shoulder's above anything else that was on show that night. Once he had settled down into his game he was fantastic his kicking out of hand was exceptional, looks like Toulouse have got a good signing there.'"
I think to play 200 + NRL games and play SOO you’ve got to be pretty decent. Like you said, he’ll be a good addition, which does us no favours!
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| Quote: cocker "We have to win some games though and dropping players for less effective isn't an option . Walker is too slow to play half back or hooker imo'"
I'm struggling to come to terms with the concept of our attack being less effective than it is now.
I don't think we've ever given Walker a run of games in a settled position to show what he can do ..
He's one of the fall guys in the current setup.
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| Quote: Brightside "I'm struggling to come to terms with the concept of our attack being less effective than it is now.
I don't think we've ever given Walker a run of games in a settled position to show what he can do ..
He's one of the fall guys in the current setup.'"
Have we ever seen Walker in his actual position of LF? Feel like he’s been used in every other position except his own
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| Quote: Brightside "I'm struggling to come to terms with the concept of our attack being less effective than it is now.
I don't think we've ever given Walker a run of games in a settled position to show what he can do ..
He's one of the fall guys in the current setup.'"
The whole team is devoid of confidence at the min.......thats the main problem , we can play good rugby and like everyone agrees we have to sort our problem asap . Luckily there's still a fair few games left to get back to winning , lets hope Willie P can turn it round and get players playing to their ability whoever he picks. Also agree LF looks a good bet for Walker.
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| Could do with somebody like Liam Finn old head and shrewd distribution from half back bet we'd see a better Reece lynne with a few quality passes and a bit of space to work in.
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| Did someone say Sam Williams......
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| Quote: cocker "The whole team is devoid of confidence at the min.......thats the main problem , we can play good rugby and like everyone agrees we have to sort our problem asap . Luckily there's still a fair few games left to get back to winning , lets hope Willie P can turn it round and get players playing to their ability whoever he picks. Also agree LF looks a good bet for Walker.'"
But why the loss of confidence? that's what i don't understand. we started the season off not playing particularly badly, we were playing some good rugby, defence wasn't bad either, not getting beat by much when we lost, even though i doubt we were playing at the time with what i would consider our "strongest" team.
Something seems to have triggered a change in the team spirit at the club. now 7 losses on the bounce including challenge cup match.
We are more or less half way through the season, 13 matches played only 3 wins in SL, just one win more than TO who were relegation favourites at the beginning of season.
There are only 27 games this season, 11 home, 11 away, and 5 loop fixtures including the Magic weekend against TO at Newcastle. TO seem to be improving rapidly and seem quite comfortable when playing at home so could still have a few wins to come. realistically i think we need to win at least 6 or 7 out of the remaining 14 matches to be safe and at the moment that's looking a tall order.
Worrying times, we need a couple of wins urgently but i just can't see where they are going to come from.
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| I know we have dodged the relegation bullet many, many times since our promotion but this season I can’t see how we can do it again. If I am honest I am not sure where or if we actually have another win in us. It’s not just down to attacking the opponents line and scoring because we have had this problem for several seasons. I just feel something is different, what I wish I knew and those that might are not going to tell us.
It was not that long ago we had one of our strongest squads but rather than adding players to strengthen it further we switched to signing players whose best years are behind them. We also retained some whose form was regressing and giving them multi year contracts. Why we chose this format again I don’t know and once again those that do are not going to tell us.
With regards the ground I have asked before but where are those in the hopefully soon to be demolished East stand to go. The suggestion was in front of the South stand but it cannot be very high or it will block the view from the bar plus will we be provided with hard hats and waterproofs should anyone drop something from above.
What I want to know is what is going on the silence from the club is deafening on all matters. The marketing of matches is questionable and how many knew about the commemorative coin we have produced.
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| Quote: Kettykat "No matter what ,we will still get more agents touting their players in the coming months looking to secure a contract for their clients whether that’s looking for long term at wakefield or simply a foothold into super league is solely down to our performances going forwards for me . It’s the board and coaches job to sift through the flotsam and jetsam and bring hunger back into the club in the form of players either from overseas or domestic who can have a positive impact on the field and the dressing room . We have to at all cost change the culture and mindset at the club for us to be a more competitive force in super league. Player will come don’t worry and we may yet unearth a gem ,you’d be hard pressed to pick up players as poor as our last incomings ,with hall being the exception and the jury out on Butler'"
Think some one posters on forum Butler did not miss a tackle against Leeds .It's a start
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| Quote: Roverman1 "Could do with somebody like Liam Finn old head and shrewd distribution from half back bet we'd see a better Reece lynne with a few quality passes and a bit of space to work in.'"
This is 100% correct, and says everything about where we are at the moment. That the best 7 we have had in recent years was a player in the twilight of a career that was mainly in the championship.
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| Are we paying the price for the signing of injury prone players We had to shuffle the team around in the match at least twice against Leeds .It does seem to be happening a lot this season. were we are moving players about in the match for one position to another to cover for some one who as had to leave the field injured .Many a time the player who as been moved is way out of is depth in that position .Just a thought not having a go at any one
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