Who is our goal kicker for next season? Can Issac John Kick goals?

Probably Collis. No idea about Johns kicking though.

We want our head read if we go back for Obst. Did an honourable job for us in the past but we don't need yet another mid level mediocre import on the side.

Ref: Mathers, he is a horrible player and I would struggle to support him - and yes he is prone to the odd howler on the field, and being at full back they are magnified, but he is no doubt a quality player and good enough for us.

Rather him than Tongia. No question at all.

Far, far too many average imports. Disappointing to say the least in my opinion.

John can kick but wasn't first choice iirc. Collis is only a part-time kicker as well.

Agree with all of this, particularly the last bit. All things being equal my order of preference would be Smith, then a big gap, Mathers, then another gap to finally Tongia.

I believe Agar has told Mathers that he wants him and he is happy to sign, just whether we will match his salary now.

Tongia is a signed up member of the club, are we trying to do a "Sam" with him and get shut. Thats not really on is it, treating players that way.

Signed up when? Thought he was just under contract for last season, never heard anything from the club.

The rumour is that he was signed up after the season ended but before Agar was signed and Agar was not overly impressed so it has not been officially announced. Note the use of the word RUMOUR.

Did the talk not go when Agar was announced as coach - he will bring the young players through - Obst coming back would prove that to be a big white one.Dont get me wrong he served the club well but lets move forward.Mathers well he can have a belting game one week then follow it with a howler.Would sooner have Tongia as he is younger and his game can be worked on and I belive he would then be a better player than Mathers.

I honestly think we need an established kicker in the side, they will be the difference to winning and losing 4/5 games this year easily. 8/10 points could be the difference between 11th and 7th going off last years table. we should have 4 guys doing 2/3 hours a day, each day until the season starts.

There is just one problem with that. A player is either a goal kicker or he is not. I played with a lad who was an excellent kicker in training, he could bang them over from everywhere, but in a match he couldn't kick for toffee. Kicking in match when it matters is a lot different to kicking in training when it doesn't. Which takes me back to my point, a player is either a goal kicker or he isn't.

Going back to thread.

We don't need Obst. The only reason I can see for him signing is that the club are not 100% confident Tim Smith will get a visa.

Then why not get Lee Smith usually deputised for Sinfield in this department at Leeds plus we have Morton and Moore (if he gets a game)