FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > Quick question for you all regarding our Stadiums
37 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
RankPostsTeam
International Star72No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2012Jun 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



OK, I'm far from Wakefield's biggest fans although having the best interest of the club at heart wouldn't it just be easy to both get together and sort the Stadium situation out? For example, what is wrong with finding a half-way point between Castleford and Wakefield and build a stadium there and share it? With both our recources we could easily do this and I really don't see the problem when you look at some of the Football teams sharing Stadiums (Inter-AC etc etc). We could therefore secure both our clubs future in SL and build teams capable of challenging for the top rather than struggling in the lower reaches?

I have been against groundsharing but now has come the time to seriously discuss it for the good of our future, don't you think?

(Sorry if this has been asked, I don't normally keep in touch in the off-season)

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach8962
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2022Jun 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



A quick question??

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3011
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2022Sep 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



'quick' question - short answer, no.

Sorry to sound rude, but I doubt you'll find anyone with the patience to go over all that again.
There are scores of stadium threads where all this is explained.
Do some research and find out how the respective stadia are being funded, then you will have your answer.
Although it seems the obvious solution with hindsight, the correct circumstances never occured and that ship sailed 5, if not 10 or more, years ago.
If the council had been funding it maybe they could have forced people's hands.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach36107
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: TheRevolution "OK, I'm far from Wakefield's biggest fans although having the best interest of the club at heart wouldn't it just be easy to both get together and sort the Stadium situation out? For example, what is wrong with finding a half-way point between Castleford and Wakefield and build a stadium there and share it? With both our recources we could easily do this and I really don't see the problem when you look at some of the Football teams sharing Stadiums (Inter-AC etc etc). We could therefore secure both our clubs future in SL and build teams capable of challenging for the top rather than struggling in the lower reaches?

I have been against groundsharing but now has come the time to seriously discuss it for the good of our future, don't you think?

(Sorry if this has been asked, I don't normally keep in touch in the off-season)'"


I'm not sorry to be rude, this is trolling pure and simple - bore off.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13811
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: TheRevolution "OK, I'm far from Wakefield's biggest fans although having the best interest of the club at heart wouldn't it just be easy to both get together and sort the Stadium situation out? For example, what is wrong with finding a half-way point between Castleford and Wakefield and build a stadium there and share it? With both our recources we could easily do this and I really don't see the problem when you look at some of the Football teams sharing Stadiums (Inter-AC etc etc). We could therefore secure both our clubs future in SL and build teams capable of challenging for the top rather than struggling in the lower reaches?

I have been against groundsharing but now has come the time to seriously discuss it for the good of our future, don't you think?

(Sorry if this has been asked, I don't normally keep in touch in the off-season)'"

You want a stadium half way between Cas and Wakefield? Take a look where Newmarket is, and that is open to share should it happen.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach7423
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: TheRevolution "OK, I'm far from Wakefield's biggest fans although having the best interest of the club at heart wouldn't it just be easy to both get together and sort the Stadium situation out? For example, what is wrong with finding a half-way point between Castleford and Wakefield and build a stadium there and share it? With both our recources we could easily do this and I really don't see the problem when you look at some of the Football teams sharing Stadiums (Inter-AC etc etc). We could therefore secure both our clubs future in SL and build teams capable of challenging for the top rather than struggling in the lower reaches?

I have been against groundsharing but now has come the time to seriously discuss it for the good of our future, don't you think?

(Sorry if this has been asked, I don't normally keep in touch in the off-season)'"

You are Richard Wright and I claim my £5.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15521
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2020May 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



a) Newmarket is equidistant between Wakefield and Castelford.

b) Newmarket will be a community stadium and as such, Castleford will be able to apply for a tenancy.

c) What 'recources' do we both have? Neither club has a bean, hence why we are both in hock to developers and slaves to the vaguaries of the planning system.

Next!

RankPostsTeam
Moderator21036
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


There are 2 reasons:

1) No one on either side really wants to
2) It is too late to go down that line, apart from Newmarket. "finding a site" the way you say it sounds easy. It has taken years for both sides to even get to this point. What makes you think we could just magic some land and then the money to build on it?

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman1470
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 1970Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: TheRevolution "OK, I'm far from Wakefield's biggest fans although having the best interest of the club at heart wouldn't it just be easy to both get together and sort the Stadium situation out? For example, what is wrong with finding a half-way point between Castleford and Wakefield and build a stadium there and share it? With both our recources we could easily do this and I really don't see the problem when you look at some of the Football teams sharing Stadiums (Inter-AC etc etc). We could therefore secure both our clubs future in SL and build teams capable of challenging for the top rather than struggling in the lower reaches?

I have been against groundsharing but now has come the time to seriously discuss it for the good of our future, don't you think?

(Sorry if this has been asked, I don't normally keep in touch in the off-season)'"


From a Castleford perspective what RW should have done when he realised the problems faced with GH, was to get behind NM as joint tenants on a short term basis (1-5 years), whilst also persisting with selling WR and moving to GH. I'd have thought, that would have guarenteed both clubs SL spot whilst allowing him time to find a buyer.

Although it's easy for me to suggest that as a Wakefield fan

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15521
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2020May 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Trinity Till Death "From a Castleford perspective what RW should have done when he realised the problems faced with GH, was to get behind NM as joint tenants on a short term basis (1-5 years), whilst also persisting with selling WR and moving to GH. I'd have thought, that would have guarenteed both clubs SL spot whilst allowing him time to find a buyer.

Although it's easy for me to suggest that as a Wakefield fan'"


The problem with that approach, from a Cas perspective, is that he'd be perceived as having taken the first step towards merging with us; once we were in the same stadium, there would be massive pressure to do so from just about every quarter other than fans of the two clubs. That, coupled with the loss of revenue they'd suffer due to a) not owning their own ground and b) fans staying away in protest, would cripple them financially and add weight to the merger argument.

To the casual observer, a merger of WTW, CT and FR at NM Stadium makes perfect sense - to the thousands of people the success of that merger would depend on, it's unconscionable.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman1470
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 1970Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bren2k "The problem with that approach, from a Cas perspective, is that he'd be perceived as having taken the first step towards merging with us; once we were in the same stadium, there would be massive pressure to do so from just about every quarter other than fans of the two clubs. That, coupled with the loss of revenue they'd suffer due to a) not owning their own ground and b) fans staying away in protest, would cripple them financially and add weight to the merger argument.

To the casual observer, a merger of WTW, CT and FR at NM Stadium makes perfect sense - to the thousands of people the success of that merger would depend on, it's unconscionable.'"


I guess that approach depends entirely upon how confident RW is in delivering GH in the near future. And i do agree, i can see why they wouldn't want to share at all, if the shoe was on the other foot i wouldn't want to share unless it was guarenteed to be a short term move

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15521
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2020May 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Trinity Till Death "I guess that approach depends entirely upon how confident RW is in delivering GH in the near future.'"


I don't think he's in any way confident about anything right now, including his own job; I know that some Cas fans will defend him (the 'he may be an idiot, but he's our idiot' approach) but he has all the hallmarks of a desperate man, clinging on for grim death whilst the house of cards he's created falls down around him.

I have some sympathy - what's happening over there is almost a mirror image of the death throes of Ted's reign at WTW; on balance, they deserve better and I hope they get it before it's too late.

RankPostsTeam
International Star17982
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



The problem with a ground share (and before I'm shot down I know that the 2 Milan football clubs manage quite well), is that for many, it would be seen as a first step to a merger.
If there was an undertaking from the RFL that the "m" word was removed from their own agenda, then maybe this could be a possibility.
As long as the ground was in Wakefield eusa_think.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach9974
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2019Feb 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: wrencat1873 "The problem with a ground share (and before I'm shot down I know that the 2 Milan football clubs manage quite well), is that for many, it would be seen as a first step to a merger.
If there was an undertaking from the RFL that the "m" word was removed from their own agenda, then maybe this could be a possibility.
As long as the ground was in Wakefield The reason the Milan ground share is successful is that they are both successful clubs in their own right and part of the institution of Italian football.
Neither us nor Cas can boast any such kind of standing in SL, both clubs could be viewed as only achieving 50% or thereabouts of what they are potentially capable of, so why not merge us??
With that thought and the RFLs recent history of shoehorning clubs into SL for expansion purposes, a ground share would mean the end for Cas IMO, as the name of Wakefield would (again IMO!!) if any common sense were to be applied, have to remain the focus of SL RL in the city of Wakefield.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5507No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Nov 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



The Milan analogy annoys me. That is one example, there are hundreds more to counter it. Why don't Liverpool & Everton share? Man Utd & Man City, Arsenal & Tottenham? Villa & Birmingham? Real & Athletico Madrid? And many, many more. Mainly because they hate each other and want a seperate indentity. Forget sharing it will not work for either side.

37 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
37 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


8.41748046875:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4m
Transfer Talk V5
FGB
513
7m
Fixtures
Smithers99
10
7m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Theeaststand
4048
11m
Ground Improvements
Khlav Kalash
197
16m
Shopping list for 2025
HU8HFC
5588
34m
Film game
Boss Hog
5763
Recent
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
Recent
Salford
Smiffy27
59
Recent
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
NickyKiss
9
Recent
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
212
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
31s
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
38s
Transfer Talk V5
FGB
513
51s
Film game
Boss Hog
5763
1m
Fixtures
Smithers99
10
1m
Shopping list for 2025
HU8HFC
5588
1m
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
1m
Getting a new side to gel
Bullseye
1
1m
Pre Season - 2025
Hullrealist
191
1m
How many games will we win
Shifty Cat
48
1m
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Bullseye
1
TODAY
Fixtures
Smithers99
10
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,699 ↑7680,15614,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R1
18:00
Toulouse
v
Widnes
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
       Championship 2025-R1
15:00
Bradford
v
LondonB
15:00
Featherstone
v
Doncaster
15:00
Oldham
v
York
15:00
Sheffield
v
Halifax
15:00
Barrow
v
Hunslet
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
       League One 2025-R1
15:00
Cornwall
v
Workington
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Crusaders
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4m
Transfer Talk V5
FGB
513
7m
Fixtures
Smithers99
10
7m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Theeaststand
4048
11m
Ground Improvements
Khlav Kalash
197
16m
Shopping list for 2025
HU8HFC
5588
34m
Film game
Boss Hog
5763
Recent
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
Recent
Salford
Smiffy27
59
Recent
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
NickyKiss
9
Recent
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
212
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
31s
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
38s
Transfer Talk V5
FGB
513
51s
Film game
Boss Hog
5763
1m
Fixtures
Smithers99
10
1m
Shopping list for 2025
HU8HFC
5588
1m
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
1m
Getting a new side to gel
Bullseye
1
1m
Pre Season - 2025
Hullrealist
191
1m
How many games will we win
Shifty Cat
48
1m
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Bullseye
1
TODAY
Fixtures
Smithers99
10
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!