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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "I agree with Hampshire, although to be fair to him, he's never really had the chance to prove it in the position he wants to be in, at half-back. Whether that's his best position is hard to know, as he hasn't played much there, but he has the chance to prove himself as an outstanding full back.
I didn't go to the Boxing Day game but I wouldn't read too much into any performances there. Blow off a few cobwebs, escape uninjured, help some new boys gel in. They are the games for players like Josh Wood to prove themselves, not Rocky.
I think you're wrong about Fifita. He will never be a player like Andrew. Just because they are identical twins does not mean they are of identical temperaments and steel, and David's character is what it is. I have identical twins and they are chalk and cheese in terms of personality and internal drive, and you wouldn't be able to instil in one what the other has. There is a reason why he was a fringe player at Cronulla whilst his brother was their outstanding player in their Grand Final win and regularly turning out for Tonga. Andrew has something more steely about him, and if David doesnt have as much, that's just how it is, but he had enough before his foot injury to be on the Man of Steel leader board.
Until his hand injury, Broughy was outstanding. We'll find out this year how much that had an effect, as he has presumably recovered from it.
I know what you mean about Johnstone. I can't wait to see him play again, but every time he strides out I'll be holding my breath. Let him have a quiet season, by his standards, and get through it unscathed. From following him on instagram, it looks like he has taken his rehab very seriously and professionally. What I don't know is whether once you have your ACL injured and repaired, it is then better and stronger, because it has been strengthened in the surgery, or whether it is always weaker because it has been damaged.'"
I didn't mean Dave would be exactly the same as Andrew, I meant in 'his own way' he could be, also bare in mind this is SL wherein all due respect the bar is set a little lower, shouldn't be but it is. With the latter in mind it's all there for Dave to grab.
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| Quote: PopTart "'Can all potentially' doesn't mean, ready to go in Super League unfortunately.
If Brough doesn't play our organisation is going to be reduced significantly. Miller and Hampshire are good players but this skill is not their best.
If we lost Brough for a significant time I think we'd need to bring a loan signing in if we wanted to maintain our top 5 wish.'"
Quite right, Broughy's legs might not be as quick as they used to be, but his brain still is.
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| Quote: Eastern Wildcat "For me, the one with the need to prove himself,is Danny Brough.'"
I'm not sure what Broughy has to prove to anyone in RL, let alone you; he's been one of the best HB's of his generation, and has played at the top level of the domestic game for almost 20 years. He isn't as quick as he once was - but who is?
For me, CC and the club have a job of work now, to transition him out of the role he currently plays, into one that better suits the fact that whilst the mind and spirit are willing, the flesh is weak(er); and that means deciding who will pick up the role of playmaker, and gradually easing them in, so that Broughy can be eased out. I'm not sure either Rocky or Miller have that skillset - they're both runners for me - but that's another issue.
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| Quote: bren2k "I'm not sure what Broughy has to prove to anyone in RL, let alone you; he's been one of the best HB's of his generation, and has played at the top level of the domestic game for almost 20 years. He isn't as quick as he once was - but who is?
For me, CC and the club have a job of work now, to transition him out of the role he currently plays, into one that better suits the fact that whilst the mind and spirit are willing, the flesh is weak(er); and that means deciding who will pick up the role of playmaker, and gradually easing them in, so that Broughy can be eased out. I'm not sure either Rocky or Miller have that skillset - they're both runners for me - but that's another issue.'"
I'd be getting Broughy at 2nd receiver more than he was last year. Get someone to take it to the line, find Broughy and let him pick out a marauding forward hitting the edges.
Hes obviously lost a yard of pace, but watching the SL Super Tries thing that was on, we were on it quite a bit and Brough did some great tracking runs.
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| I agree that he has been one of the best halves halves around in the past 10 years or so.
However, I did state in my earlier point Bren, that it could well have been his injury last year, or the injuries to others, but at times he didn't look anything like what hes capable of.
It may well be, that if he and others around him stay fit, them we might just see that class.
I also said that prior to him coming back, that in the latter half of 2018, Rocky and Hampshire looked to be working well together.
It also didn't help, with the thoughts on Broughie of sin binning in the two opening rounds of the season
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| Quote: Fishermanscap "No, we don't. Josh Wood, Miller and Hampshire can all potentially run a game, however we chose to let Danny do it because for nearly 20 years he's been better at it than almost anybody. If he's 'past it' then the others get their chance in due course, that's how team building works.'" danny Brough as been an half decent player over the years, no one can take that away from him and maybe if his temperament had been better a top club would of taken him and he would of had an even better career.
My take on him now is that his legs have gone, the right side was more or less blunt in attack the stats show this, lynn 6T, DB 2T tang 1T and bishop 8 with rocky setting up some of these. It’s not bagging him it’s just age that he can’t do what he could, he receives the ball the opposition know he’s not going to run with it so they just hold and it’s easy to defend. Brough still as a good brain and if you play him we must get him into the areas he can do damage in the 20 where he can be crafty with his kicks. His last season at shudds they seem to keep Brough and Gaskell out of it till the 30 then moved it through the hands at pace not off a prop round the back where he’s getting slower ball. As for organising the game Is so robotic it’s run to that blade of grass to get to that I think the hooker as more organising these days.
Moving on to rocky if your playing Brough and miller at half then rocky has to play at 1 he has too much pace to leave out and was our most potent attacker along with toupo before he got injured. If the team can create him the space hel run them in, inside balls little chips to break it up it might not always work but it creates space out wide then. If he plays half then I’d let the other half organise and let Ryan play wider and use his pace quite simply he can cause damage.
We’ve got some quality backs and I think if they’re used properly and not like battering rams we might get more product, interesting how TJ and BT come back.
I think if the forwards stick their hands up have a big dig and not come off after 20 mins we could go ok add to this a change of style of play to suit us and who knows.
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