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Quote: bellycouldtackle "I think having brought Ryan over from Aus the coach / club want to see what we have got so he is getting in the starting 17. I do not think anyone has seen enough yet to say that Ryan is a better player than Walshaw. I would like to see Walshaw get a run of games in the second row so we can find out about him. I think given a chance he will prove himself. I have nothing against Ryan and hope he becomes a star with us. I do understand that it is easier to play Ryan ( as we have come over from Aus ) and send Walshaw out on loan. I just hope that we can give Walshaw, Trout and Anankin enough chances this season.'"



Ryan would be the first one that came to mind. I have nothing against him personally and he may prove to be an astute signing, but for me after 3 or 4 games the jury is still out.
We dont see them training on a daily basis so cant give a completely accurate account, but what i do believe is that he & Harry will be given more games to prove there worth than the likes of Walshaw, Trout, Wildie etc based on the simple fact that they have been brought half the way around the world.

As i said in my previous post, the last time we created top quality players was when we had to expose them to Super League rugby through not having a choice.
Playing games at the top level has to improve you. Matty Wildie is a prime example. Was it JK's last year where we were skint and up against it and Matty played quite a few games and walked away with awards at the end of season do. Since then he has played maybe 15 games in total on and off and lets be honest is probably only still here as at one point in the off season it looked like he would be the best we could get.
Dont get me wrong, im not saying MW is a great, but i think he could have been a far better player than people give him credit for currently if he had been given the opportunities.

Forcing us to play our own academy products was something i kind of hoped would be a plus point on the back of our money troubles over the winter. As it stands, i just dont see it happening anytime soon.

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I agree with points made to an extent, some of the players who are overseas will be played more because they are probably paid more? Walshaw has played 2 out of 4 games this season and has been sent out on loan to get more gametime. Annakin was brought through last season didn't he go on loan too? Crowther has made his debut and probably get more games under the belt as the season goes along and Max Jowitt will probably get games as Agar has said too. This season is important and if this means this happening and us staying up I'm all for it.

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I thought the promotion and relegation thing might come up but as has been pointed out what's the excuse been for the previous 10 years??
Surely as has been proved in the past, there is as much risk bringing 2nd grade players from Oz over as there is in playing a youngster. I'm thinking Southern for example.

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Quote: Fritzys Mullet "I thought the promotion and relegation thing might come up but as has been pointed out what's the excuse been for the previous 10 years??
Surely as has been proved in the past, there is as much risk bringing 2nd grade players from Oz over as there is in playing a youngster. I'm thinking Southern for example.'"

I agree with you to an extent as I said but you're saying this now, it isn't 10 years ago - some players are coming through. MC said he wants to put money into our academies to bring youngsters through. Lets not forget who signed Southern...

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "How much experience does Lyne, Molloy and Briscoe have? Hasn't Matt Ryan only played 30 NRL games? Siejka has played less than 10. The experience argument is a red herring.'"


Every sport evolves around success and how best to achieve it. You look at Manchester United how many players do they have from their own youth development. I would consider a player that has only played 4 first grade games in the NRL to be far more experienced than a player with a similar number of games in SL.

None of us attend training or are involved so how do any of us know how each player compares with the next. If we still had a reserve grade then we could better judge a player's ability and it would allow them to stay within the club's programme.

The bottom line is we can all have our opinions but it is a leisure facility for us and a means of living for the coaching staff therefore they must go with the best team available each week.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "The bottom line is we can all have our opinions but it is a leisure facility for us and a means of living for the coaching staff therefore they must go with the best team available each week.'"


Exactly this!

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