we will prob end up in 9th place, as a realist, I believe part of why we had such a good season last year was due to Hull, Bradford and Warrington having unusually bad ones in superleague, we will see these teams well above us this season, putting us down the ladder. Hopefully, we will keep hold of John and he will motivate us to surprise a few of the be]tter teams ?

Post of the year Slugger

I think everyone is down at the moment. Even the players from what I have read. Losing key players is tough enough but losing them then hitting a really bad patch of form is even worse.

I think the big problem is when we punch above our weight then expectation levels raise significantly so when we start losing people get upset. We're the victim of our own success unfortunately to a point.

That said, the players IMHO need to stand up and be counted as JK is getting a lot of flack and unfairly so IMHO. It's the players who are not doing their job and yes JK is the man who needs to change that but some have simply not been at all professional in recent months.

If JK is guilty of anything its showing too much loyalty to certain players. That could be his downfall. He needs to start picking the players in form who have the right attitude. Not those who seem to think they can just walk into the team.

IMHO I think we need to look to bring in some fresh blood to mix it up. Ideally a top quality 7 IMHO. We need a new midfield general, as Obst, BJ and Cooke are not the leaders we need to replace Brough. Support players yes, leaders and directors of the team - sorry but no!

I think a top tier signing would give everyone a boost and inject some life and freshness into the team. We need someone to take control on the field and fast. Don't tell me we don't have no spare money has that is rubbish.

Interesting times ahead, we're down but not out yet. Let's get behind the lads and keep the faith.

NO, NO, NO, Youve got it all wrong, only a merger with Cas can save us

At least we've got our lowest points of the season out of the way early, the disastrous nilling by Shudds and the appalling performance and ultimately the defeat to Crusaders. Surely even Wakefield can't play that bad again this season!

We usually save these kinds of performances for the business end of the season when we collapse against Cas at home or squander a 20 point lead when we look to be securing 2 valuable play off points!

Got to be onwards and upwards from here... He says!