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| It's looking like all the Sky TV money will be retained by the top 20 clubs from 2020 season onwards. The rest of the clubs will get nothing and become amateur clubs.
To avoid this fate, Keighley Cougarshttps://keighleycougars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/stand-2.pngrl have gone nowhere in 5 years because the club cannot get the funding.
Why?
Because to get public funding, as well as making out a strong case, a club:
1. HAS to have no single individual owning more than 50% of the club
2. HAS to have a minimum of three properly appointed directors and
3. HAS to publish full, audited accounts every year.
Keighley Cougars fails on all three counts. This has to be rectified FAST - or the club goes amateur in two years time.
The coach, his staff, our players and the supporters and volunteers deserve the right off field backing now to avoid the worst happening.
It's to be hoped the club has the right calibre of sponsor to make the right things happen.
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| Looks like a 'Community Club' could be the only way!
After being 24-6 up at half time we lose 28-24! PATHETIC!
What is wrong?
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| Quite simple this team isn't good enough.
Last season we leaked and average of nearly 30 points per game.
We started this season on the same foot.
With a crowd of less than 300 today how can a team put together on there budget possibly be competitive against us.
All we are is a team of journey men with the odd exception.
Is this the coaches fault because this basically his team.
I presume he has chosen these players so if we fail does it fall at his feet.
If it does where do we go from here as he's been given a contract extension but I'm scratching my head as to why because we are in no better position than when Paul March was in charge.
No one more than me hopes Craig turns this round but with all the penalties we concede and the defensive frailties we have 5th is best we can hope for.
I hope I'm eating these words come the end of the regular season.
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| Quote: Mr Hicks "All we are is a team of journey men with the odd exception.'"
Average age of the squad is 24. Some young journey men then if this was the case.
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| Quote: Cross Hills Cougar "It's looking like all the Sky TV money will be retained by the top 20 clubs from 2020 season onwards. The rest of the clubs will get nothing and become amateur clubs.'"
I can tell you for a FACT that the Championship and League One clubs voted 26-0 against any suggested changes to central funding and prize money last week.
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| Maybe a young team but all we've signed are players from championship 1 clubs or Super league reserves.
Our pack was out musseled, enthused or whatever you want to call it.
If we front up against better teams questions need to be asked why.
As fans we pay good money to watch them they have a duty to preform to the best of there capabilities.
It will have cost most fans with travel at least £40 maybe more to watch that.
The players got paid to play like that.
Doesn't take a lot of working out what I'm saying
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| Yesterday's result was nothing new, away form cost us big time last season and has to be the number one concern for me. Home advantage obviously plays a part but I can't understand for the life of me why we are so bad on the road.
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| Quote: Mr Hicks ".... how can a team put together on there budget possibly be competitive against us.
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Because it's not just about how much you pay your players, it's how they are valued and looked after and motivated - North Wales is actually a better club, it's galling to say, than Keighley Cougars at the moment.
North Wales Crusaders has an all for one and one for all team spirit from the board of directors through the players and staff and through to the fans.
North Wales Crusaders hashttps://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09873155/officersrl
A full Time General Manager
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A positive and mutually beneficial relationship with local amateur clubs
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A fantastic youth set-up
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and directors who put money into the club.
Cougars need to sort out the things suggested
Quote: Mr Hicks "
1. HAS to have no single individual owning more than 50% of the club
2. HAS to have a minimum of three properly appointed directors and
3. HAS to publish full, audited accounts every year.
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and things would improve massively from there
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| Quote: Mr Hicks "Maybe a young team but all we've signed are players from championship 1 clubs or Super league reserves.'"
As has every team in our division with the exception of Bradford and Workington.
Quote: Mr Hicks "Our pack was out musseled, enthused or whatever you want to call it.'"
All their tries except one was scored down the North Wales right edge, hence why their centre had a hat-trick and the Man of the Match, I wouldn't say the pack was out musseled or enthused.
Quote: Mr Hicks "If we front up against better teams questions need to be asked why.'"
The term "better team" can't be used for League One anymore. There is easily 11 teams who can get promoted this season and we are one of them.
Quote: Mr Hicks "As fans we pay good money to watch them they have a duty to preform to the best of there capabilities.'"
So what you're saying is you expect perfection every single week? You've never had a bad day at work? It's the second game of the season, calm yourself down.
Quote: Mr Hicks "It will have cost most fans with travel at least £40 maybe more to watch that.'"
We have the best following support in this division as far as I'm concerned and even from the press box it makes me feel pride to look out of the box or window to see that quite a few times in this division we match or outnumber the home support.
Quote: Mr Hicks "The players got paid to play like that.'"
We had a bad 40 minutes, it cost us and saw us knocked out of the Challenge Cup. The lads didn't go out and lose on purpose. It cost them winning pay as a result.
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| The trouble is 'Hello Trouble' that those of us who have been supporting Keighley and the Cougars since the 1960's and before, have seen it all, despite what you say;[i 'what goes around comes around'[/i to coin a phrase.
What is the problem with the Cougars becoming a 'Community Club' just like North Wales Crusaders with a true 'Board of Directors' instead of the shambles that it appears to be at present?
Please remind the 'faithful' who actually owns the Club which we have supported through thick and thin for over 50 years (in my case)?
It's easy to discover at Companies House if you don't.
Could that be the problem as 'CHC' suggests?
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| Need to look at how Castleford does these things for a clue as to how to run a successful rugby league club.
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| by the way, would you buy a second hand car from this bloke...
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rlhttps://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/4804580.Boss_stands_down_as_school_governor/rl
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| Quote: Fax and furious "by the way, would you buy a second hand car from this bloke...
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Probably not. What he did do though is save the club from liquidation in 2010 we've had 8 years of not going bust, he has perhaps stagnated as a director over the last few years. We were particularly unlucky being relegated as the 5th team in the same year Batley had their points deduction returned. I'm guessing a lot of eggs were in one basket that year.
We will have to see what state the club is in on 26th May, but the way I see it it can't be any worse than how the club was in 2010 when he took on the club when I'm pretty sure no-one else would.
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| Anybody who's thinking about it will certainly need to be brave and have deep pockets but if, after due diligence, Gary Fawcett can't find a new director to appoint, what happens to the club when Gary resigns as a director on 26 May (but remains as the owner?)
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| Quote: Cross Hills Cougar "what happens to the club when Gary resigns as a director on 26 May (but remains as the owner?)'"
Best go bust and start again with new owners and no debts kind of like Bradford Bulls & York.
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