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I think it's about time we had the Cheltenham thread up, with news beginning to leak out of withdrawals and injuries.

Kauto Star is now 50/50 after a problem suffered on Friday. Grandouet is out of the Champion Hurdle, whilst Captain Chris could also miss the Festival after a poor run in the Argento.

Anybody heading to Prestbury Park this year? I have tickets for the Tues and Thurs but may have to miss the Tuesday at the moment. :/

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Will be there on thursday, and in the Pack of Cards at 10.30!!

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I've never been, I would absolutely love to go. I think it's right up there on my 'bucket list'.

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think i may go down for the tuesday..
went tues and weds last year

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My bets so far:

Put a single on Big Buck's in November @ 4/5 with Ladbrokes, NRNB.
Done a single on Quevega at the same stake & odds when it was announced Voler would be going for the World. I must've literally been one of the last people to get the 4/5 that was left with Boyles, as shortly after they were same price as everyone else. No NRNB so backside will be nipping until I see her line up at the tape.

Three multiples with free bet money.

Quevega (5/4) & Big Buck's (4/7), with the first leg being Novak Djokovic to win the Aussie open.

The next one was a nine-timer which included a few cross the card sports bets (Man Utd to beat Ajax in Amsterdam etc), plus Hurricane Fly (8/11), Big Buck's (8/15) and Quevega (4/7).

The most recent one was Hurricane Fly (4/5), Quevega (4/7), Big Buck's (4/7) and Long Run (9/4) acca.


Just backed Quevega again, 1/2 - crap price but at least I got NRNB. Unaccompanied only runs if Quevega doesn't, and realistically she should beat the rest of them on the snaff.
Same odds as the Buck's machine, yet it is easy to make a case for Oscar Whisky. Even if you don't think OW will beat him - it is easy to see him giving BB a big race if he stays the trip.
Cannot see anything troubling Quevega. She beat a far better field than this over further at Punchestown last year despite making a complete hash of the last hurdle and hacked all over a similar field to this one at Chelts for the past couple of years.

My swerve of the meeting is Sizing Europe. Make no bones about it, he has had three hard races this year. The first one on heavy ground at Down Royal, the second in the Tingle Creek - ok, he slammed the lot of them but Lynch still asked him to kick on and do it with authority, same scenario against Big Zeb in the tied cottage. Think that could be the Championship race with a shock result this year.
Finian's Rainbow is the most likely candidate, but he isn't the type you associate with a street fight. Big Zeb maybe a bit too old now. Kauto Stone will have to settle better than past twice if he is to ever win a decent prize. After that, there aren't many conceivable options. Somersby going for the Ryanair probably, Wishful Thinking has had a queer season so far, rest of them... eusa_think.gif

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUWEnwDgxaw icon_biggrin.gif wonder what odds Harchibald would've went on Betfair!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUWEnwDgxaw icon_biggrin.gif wonder what odds Harchibald would've went on Betfair!


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I read somewhere that someone thought the Gold Cup field was high class, could'nt disagree more. So I thought i'd take it apart, by looking at the last 22 winners.
1/ The last 12 had run in either the King George or Lexus in their winning season.
2/ 17/22 had previously run in a grade 1 chase at a previous festival. Cool Dawn had run in a foxhunter, Imperial Call, Master Oats and Jodami were having their 1st run at the course, whilst foot and mouth put pay to Best Mate running in the Arkle.
3/ 16/22 had run in either the KG or Lexus earlier in the season. Cool Dawn was thought to be a handicapper, no reason why Garrison Savannah missed either race, Master Oats was thought to be a national horse, whilst Imperial Call and Jodami both prepped in what was Ireland's top GC trial- Irish Hennessey.

Just by using the top stat, we are left with 3. Long Run, Captain Chris and Synchronised. We can eliminate the latter, as he has no Cheltenham festival chase form, in fact his 2 Chelt runs read fell and 6th.

Long Run will now go off fav. Evens imo, but defending champions have a poor record in the race, and I feel last year's race just fell apart for him. Which leaves ;

CAPTAIN CHRIS;
£25 e/w @ 40/1 with Stan James.

Ran 3rd in the KG
Has festival chase form- won Arkle.
His record on good going (usual for Cheltenham) reads 111211U, his 2 losses can be argued to be unlucky.
His record between march and may ( spring horse) outside of his debut is 11111.

Very much the forgotten horse of the race.

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the king george is 2.5f less on a flat track, and captain chris also has a tendency to jump right.

won arkle well last year but can't see any better than him running on for a place.

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Kempton form is often a good pointer to Cheltenham, especially the RP chase meeting.

The thing about these 3milers nowadays, is they tend to be wrapped in cottonwool, and only ever appear in the big races. Gone are the days of seeing the likes of Dessie lumping weights in handicaps. Plus, ims, there is also a bonus for the KG and Lancs Chase winner if he wins the GC

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Quote: Live Wired " Plus, ims, there is also a bonus for the KG and Lancs Chase winner if he wins the GC'"


im pretty sure it was the betfair million? but dont think it is in function these days?

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Agree with comments that this years Gold Cup field isn't as strong as previous, especially compared to last year where we had Imperial Commander, Kauto Star and Denman in the race. I do quite like this years entries though, alot of decent runners with the potential to be great.

Liking Grands Crus, Burton Port and Quel Esprit at the moment.

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just hoping if i have an outright bet on the gold cup i get a run for my money, for the past two years that hasnt happened. 2010 kauto went a cropper and last year imperial commander broke a blood vessel while still looking full of running.

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Kauto Star is looking more likely to run now after an encouraging session at the yard.

Sad to hear of Harry Redknapp's horse Bygones of Brid being put down yesterday after a fall at Taunton.

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Took 20s on Baby Mix for the Triumph about an hour before he won the Adonis t'other week, have since had a punt on Grumeti aswell.
Quevega, Big Bucks, Hurricane Fly & Sprinter Sacre in a mixture of doubles, trebles and fourfolds although I wouldn't back Sprinter Sacre now he's as short as Evens. Flattened out coming up the hill last year and the Arkle is a tough race.
Also hoping Grands Crus' owners decide to take their chance in the Gold Cup as I've backed Invictus ante-post for the RSA. If Grands Crus does go for the Gold Cup I'll definitely be topping up on that one.

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20:00
Catalans
v
LondonB
 Sun 15th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
12:00
WiganW
v
LeedsW
14:00
Hudds W
v
Wire W
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
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Warrington
 Fri 20th Sep 2024
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Sheffield
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York
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Huddersfield
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Castleford
20:00
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Catalans
20:00
Hull KR
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Leeds
20:00
Leigh
v
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20:00
Warrington
v
LondonB
20:00
Wigan
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Salford
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Dewsbury
18:00
Widnes
v
Toulouse
19:30
Wakefield
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Barrow
 Sun 22nd Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
15:00
Batley
v
Swinton
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Doncaster
 Sat 28th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
17:00
Toulouse
v
Batley
 Sun 29th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
15:00
Barrow
v
Widnes
15:00
Bradford
v
Swinton
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
Doncaster
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Halifax
15:00
York
v
Featherstone
 Sun 27th Oct 2024
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14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
 Sat 2nd Nov 2024
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12:00
ENGLAND W
v
WALES W
     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
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v
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Matches on TV
Thu 8th Aug
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Salford
Fri 9th Aug
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
Sat 10th Aug
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wigan
Sun 11th Aug
SL
15:00
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SL
15:00
LondonB-Warrington
Sat 17th Aug
SL
19:30
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SL
17:00
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
14:30
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:30
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:00
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:30
Huddersfield-Castleford
Fri 23rd Aug
SL
20:00
Castleford-Warrington
SL
20:00
Leeds-Catalans
Sat 24th Aug
SL
15:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
SL
14:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Sun 25th Aug
SL
15:00
LondonB-Leigh
SL
15:00
Wigan-Hull FC
Fri 30th Aug
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Warrington
Sun 4th Aug
SL 20 LondonB12-10Catalans
WSL2024 10 FeatherstoneW6-68LeedsW
WSL2024 10 BarrowW6-64St.HelensW
WSL2024 10 Wire W0-61York V
WSL2024 10 WiganW70-0Hudds W
L1 18 Keighley72-12Newcastle
L1 18 Oldham32-0Midlands
L1 18 Rochdale46-32Cornwall
L1 18 Workington24-28Crusaders
CH 20 Barrow24-24Bradford
CH 20 Dewsbury16-42Wakefield
CH 20 Featherstone24-16Batley
CH 20 Halifax38-18York
CH 20 Sheffield22-20Doncaster
CH 20 Whitehaven12-24Widnes
NRL 22 Penrith22-14Newcastle
NRL 22 Canterbury22-18Canberra
Sat 3rd Aug
SL 20 Hull FC6-46St.Helens
SL 20 Salford22-16Leeds
CH 20 Swinton4-48Toulouse
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Hull KR 20 503 259 244 30
Wigan 19 495 258 237 30
Warrington 20 502 267 235 28
Salford 20 377 382 -5 26
St.Helens 20 501 262 239 24
Catalans 20 376 286 90 24
 
Leeds 20 371 364 7 20
Leigh 19 392 286 106 19
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 20 336 523 -187 13
Hull FC 20 274 612 -338 6
LondonB 20 210 735 -525 4
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 18 626 222 404 34
Sheffield 18 510 303 207 26
Toulouse 17 516 224 292 25
Widnes 18 434 319 115 23
Bradford 18 421 321 100 22
Featherstone 18 464 375 89 18
 
Doncaster 18 338 432 -94 17
York 19 446 383 63 16
Batley 18 300 390 -90 16
Halifax 18 356 477 -121 14
Barrow 17 279 482 -203 13
Swinton 18 346 470 -124 12
Whitehaven 18 348 580 -232 12
Dewsbury 19 240 602 -362 2
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