Don't believe everything you read.

He seems to conveniently overlook the fact that the £120m revenue generated by the CL comes at a huge price in terms of greatly increased wages. If he genuinely believes that the £120m is all surplus money that could be spent on new signings then its not suprising that he fell out not just with the owners but also the CEO's.

I think the problem with Benitez was that he became so negative, not in his tactics but in his public statements. Apart from the "big European nights" there just seem to have been such an air of gloom and despondency surrounding the club recently. Thats obviously mainly caused by the ownership issue but Benitez seemed to be continually adding to the negativity. It must have hasd an impact on the squad, which I still believe was capable of coasting a top 4 place.

The whole gross v net spending argument is pointless as the fact is he has spent £220m mostly on players who have not developed. The footballl we have played under Rafa has been as just as inept as under Houllier .

I just feel the whole "We don't have the funds" attitude of Rafa and many others failed to address the fact that from top to bottom there was/ is a lack of leadership and judgement. But ultimately I feel that the coaching/ management is flawed.

Especially when you look at player development.

When I analyse this I find the following:

1) Everton coached Rooney to become a 30mil player.
2) Berbatov cost Spurs around 11mil. Spurs then coached Berbatov to become a 30 mil player. The inital figure Spurs paid for him is approx the same as what we spent on Kuyt. We also spent roughly the same on Babel.

We rejected a bid of 9mil for Babel (which including what we have spent in wages on him adds up to be a huge loss) and how many clubs would pay 30mil for Kuyt?

We have had season after season of Rafa telling us we have less money so have to develop our own players to compete, but how many of them have actually developed under his coaching system?

To highlight this you only have to look at players both past and present.

Alonso - Great first season, major dip in form and we fail to get the best out of him until he feels the need to be in the shop window for his dream move to Real (after Rafa trying to sell him to buy Barry)

Bellamy - Signed on the back of a good season only to fade away and sign for City.

Kuyt - Prolific goal scorer for Feyenoord, in his first few games showed great touch, vision and movement only to see a major dip in form and then be switched to the wing.

Keane - Never had been a prolific goal scorer until 06/07 & 07/08. Has always been a gifted player though especially when playing just behind the front man. Signed on the back of his two most prolific seasons. Used as a lone striker. Sold at a loss half way through the season after being baffled with tactics.

Now this is the one that really gets to me.

Yossi Benayoun - whether other Liverpool fans would agree with me or not this guy is actually one of our most technically gifted and minded players. Right footed and shows an eye for goal. Often has to make do with a place on the bench, even after scoring the week before and when brought on usually has to play on the left wing when it is obvious he should be playing just off Torres.

Alonso is the only one of the above who we turned from a 10mil player into a 30mil player and it was Rafa poor management that instigated that.

Which brings another issue, when all the world could see we needed to reinvest that money into buying a striker why did we buy an injured midfielder? And why given Rafa's constant "We have no money" bleat did he decide to spend 17mil on a right back who can not defend? At least Johnson can attack though.

For me it shows other than Torres (who I think most people knew was an extremely good striker) he really hasn't a much of a clue when it comes to buying attacking players and when he does make a decent signing he doesn't know how to use them.

We really need a manager who can sort out the whole coaching system.
Players play in their natural positions.
Get training to consist of actually playing football and getting to know the movement of your team mates.
Use man marking when defending set pieces.
And actually use a bit of man management, praise players for showing skill, flair and imagination.
Play and develop the youth players and don't drop them the week after they have played a good game. (Infact don't drop players at all after they have had a good game, unless they are unfit of course)

Unlike some I don't think bringing the King back into the post would be wise but something has always stuck in my mind from what he says in a book I have. When posed the question of what we did in training that made us so good he answered "We play football."

I see Liverpool fans have the chance to see how their new management team approach a game at Old Trafford on ITV now.

Inept football? It delivered the Champions League trophy to Liverpool. It delivered another CL final appearence. It should have delivered the league title last season.



Flawed management that delivered two La Liga titles and a UEFA Cup win with Valencia. Flawed management that delivered a CL win, an FA Cup win and another CL final appearance for Liverpool.

95% of managers would fully accept those kind of flaws.





That is utterly ****ing stupid. Rooney wasn't coached to become a £30m player, Everton just got very lucky that a great talent joined them and shone. If that was done by coaching then every player would be coached to do that and the world would have thousands of magnificent players. We don't know why some players achieve brilliance while most don't, but it aint the coaching.

Tottenham didn't coach Berbatov to become a £30m player. They bought a player for £11m million, played him for a couple of seasons. The inflation that being a successful PL player and a massive mistake from Fergie resulted in him going to United for £30. He wasn't coached to make an improvement, Tottenham just allowed him to shine in a way that United cannot and Fergie just bought a dud.



Moyes, Redknapp and Ferguson have made plenty of 5hitty deals just like those. It's moronic to cherry pick great trades and while ignoring the bad deals they've done.

Liverpool's two best deals under Benitez were signing Torres and keeping Gerrard even though Chelsea were desperate to sign him. You're talking about £90m that Liverpool could make if they sold them two. Does Benitez not receive any credit for that?



He was at Liverpool 5 seasons. Benitez was up against Fergie's Man United, Abramovich funded Chelsea and Wenger's Arsenal. He was up against those sides without the same funding CFC and MU were given and without the backing that Wenger has. Any coach can only do so much.



Bought for £10m and sold for £30m. Bad Benitez coaching, obviously.




quoteBellamy - Signed on the back of a good season only to fade away and sign for City.'"

Can see your points however I reckon if you'd have asked Liverpool fans after finishing 2nd in the league which position they would like to see strengthened with an £18m purchase, hardly any would have put right back at the top of the list.

Arjen Robben

What has happened?

This Soccer Aid stuff, do the celebrities pay to play? If they are wanting us to donate our money I at least want to know that a bunch of celebs are having to pay to be on the same pitch as Zidane and Giggs. If not they should be.

Definitely out of the World Cup I'm guessing?

Of course they wouldn't, and I doubt he was the one at the top of Rafa's list. I think most Liverpool fans would have thought we'd have had more money to spend. Keane was sold (at a loss, admittedly, but where did the money go?), Alonso was sold and Arbeloa was sold, there should have been more cash available but the owners were having none of it. When we sold Alonso, it was apparently £30m straight up, no installments, no effing around, just £30m cash. The way we signed Aquilani meant it would be spread over several years, that doesn't excuse that he could eventually cost £17m, but of the Alonso money that went, the manager wasn't given anywhere near all of it, if he was, we'd have had a back up striker.

I think Rafa would have wanted one, but the Alonso and Mascherano scenarios dominated our summer. We had to sell Xabi but Rafa managed to convince Masch to stay, we got Aquilani immediately then had to scrape the barrel for a £1.5m centre half. I'm sure Rafa planned on bringing in a striker, I'm sure he would have liked on in January as well, but the owners were too tight and 'lied' again.

What an absolute tonk.
Last I heard it was anything from 15 days to 6 weeks out.

That sounds like an estimate from a non-league physio on Football Manager!

If it was the flu would you send him home?

I believe I would, last thing needed is the rest of the squad coming down with it

if you could still tackle like Gordon Ramsey does I might watch football all the time

Henrik Larsson in the middle of the defence. Interesting tactical decisions by Kenny

It's been a pretty good laugh so far this to be fair. Hope the ROW team appreciate how lucky they are to be playing alongside Zidane and Figo, must be incredible that!

And Hyypia.

Aye top player Sammi. Figo and Zidane two of the best players of my generation would sneak it for me personally. Larsson still looks in tip top shape.

Was that Lassana Diarra or Brian Lara in midfield?

Thought Dwight Yorke might of played for ROW with him involved. Wouldn't have fancied playing their school at Cricket or Football

This commentary is really making me look forward to the ITV World Cup coverage.

I found a group on facebook called 'Clive Tydesley is the antichrist'. Here's what it had to say:



Made me laugh, but maybe I'm easily amused.

I found a website even more succint than that about Clive Tyldesley, but i'm not posting a link to it!

now benitez is the new inter manager will he be after torres and gerrard