If the BBC are going to use Coulthard, they should have insisted he give up his consultancy roles with Red Bull and Toro Rosso, otherwise his integrity as the supposed "expert" voice in their commentary is badly compromised IMO.

To blame Kovalainen for that accident is ludicrous. What does he want Lotus to do, roll over and die whenever anyone who should be higher up the field comes up behind them? Heikki didn't make a double move, had Webber gone three feet to his right he could have zipped up the inside and been by him in plenty of time to make the next corner.

Red Bull drivers have been guilty of some serious errors of judgement in recent GPs (this one, following hot on the heels of the Webber/Vettel coming together a couple of races ago) and Coulthard has been very careful not to upset his employers on both occasions.

I agree. Why should Heikki have to move for him just because his car is slower. Webber has to earn the right to overtake and can't expect other drivers to not defend their position.

[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8769619.stmFerrari throw toys out of pram[/url I don't recall them whinging like this when their driver at the time, Schumacher, not once but twice deliberately took out a rival challenger for the World title. That did more damage to the sport all those years ago than this "incident" will ever do.

Correct, my friend.

Whine, whine, whine - Ferrari. Boo-hoo.

Hamilton aint no saint though...take the first lap incident with Vettel...he did not have the racing line touched with Vettel and claimed over the radio 'Vettel hit me' no you hit Lewis....there have been other drivers who have won world championships trying to overtake when the shouldn't......and have been heavily critizised for it.

I don't feel sorry for Ferrari...but i do have a bit of sympathy for Alonso

It was absolutely marginal - fractions of a second involved in whether he was in front of or behind the safety car. It's a sad reflection of how far Ferrari have fallen since Todt and Brawn jumped ship that they're reduced to petty squabbling over the rules to get points, see also their moaning about the Schumacher overtake in Monaco under the safety car. Their ludicrous subsequent complaint about Hamilton backing the pack up under the safety car was major grasping at straws.

Get over it and start concentrating on why you've got such a dog of a car if I were you Luca.

Alonso's whining when things don't go his way was tiresome when he was winning, it comes across even worse now he's not.

As for the coming together with Vettel, racing incident. In the first few corners of a GP there are little collisions like that happening all over the track.

Would Alonso be kicking up such a fuss if it was any other driver than Hamilton? Probably not, he would still whine but not to the same extent as a child that doesn't get their own way. I think he's still bitter at how he was out driven and outsmarted by a "rookie" driver.

Anybody got a link from the in car radio transmission when they told whiney that Hamilton had not dropped a place, I need a new ring tone.

Whata position wassa he in beforea and nowa.

He wassa in a seconda and now he is in seconda

ITTSSSAAAA NOTTA FAIRRRR

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I hope Damon Hill isn't trying to put the muckers on Lewis and Jenson before their home race, as if us Brits haven't had enough pain this sporting summer and what we could all dearly do with is a McLaren one-two at Silverstone, whichever order I don't care.

Oh lord I hope they can do it for us. I dream about it every day. If our brave boys pull it off I can only imagine the homecoming celebrations will be like in Monaco and Switzerland.

Irrespective of the current residences of their drivers, McLaren is a British team and their primary competition this weekend is coming from an Austrian team with drivers from Germany and Australia (two of England's biggest sporting adversaries).

It could do with livening up as it's not exactly Prost v Senna.

Indeed, after all it is the constructors championship that Button and Hamilton are driving to win.

Nice to see F1 isn't moving away from its circus stage yet after todays race

You would think that Ferrari could come up with a better way of telling it's driver to let a teamate past than just saying he's faster than you.It was obvious what they were telling him to do,it also didn't help that Massa's race engineer said sorry to him on the radio after it happened.

With Jean Todt now head of the FIA i can't see anything more than the fine they got being the outcome,maybe a team not called Ferrari would get a points deduction.

Did McLaren get one when Kovaleinen moved over for Hamilton at this very track the season before last?

Will they get one for telling Button simply to defend his place from an early stage today, and not try to race his team-mate in front of him?

What about Red Bull taking part of a car from one driver and giving it to another last time out?

Ferrari did what was best to maximise their chances of winning both championships come the seasons end, it was no surprise that all the drivers/former drivers on the coverage basically agreed that it was the right thing for them to do, hearing Christian Horner complain about it given the Vettell/Webber shenanigans we've already had this season was laughable.

Button has said he didn't have the pace to get past Hamilton and Red Bulls decision had no effect on the race result as Webber won the race anyway.

If we are taking the drivers word for it as gospel then Massa said he let Alonso past because he was quicker, and do you think anything would have been said or done if Vettel had won last time out?

I take it you had no problem with the Kovaleinen/"Our" Lewis incident?.

IIRC Hamilton and Kovaleinen wasn't for the race lead it was for 4th place with Kovalienen having tyre problems which Hamilton turned into a win after passing Piquet and Massa.IMO letting a teamate through to win a race that you could win is not the same as letting him through to win a race that you havent a chance to win.

The rule is breached in both cases, Kovaleinen did similar at China and Silverstone as well in 2008 IIRC, if we follow your logic then it isn't a problem that Alonso went past Massa if he wins the title, after all Massa has no chance of doing that but Alonso has a slim one?

Either they are or were both wrong, or neither are - whoever the drivers and whatever the team involved, the nature of the sport and how it works make the "no team orders" rule a stupid one, because all the teams do it to one degree or another (apart from our brave boys obviously).

Just seen on Top Gear a wonderful sequence on quite frankly (in my opinion) the greatest F1 driver of them all, Ayrton Senna Da Silva. So on that note, who is everyone's favourite F1 driver of all time?

Certainly not the cry baby Alonso who had to whinge and get the team to let him pass after been so much quicker than his teamate infront that he couldnt pass him on his own merit.

Without doubt would have to say Senna.

Schumacher