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| Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
Fri 30 October 2009
Friday Practice 1 09:00 - 10:30
Friday Practice 2 13:00 - 14:30
Sat 31 October 2009
Saturday Practice 10:00 - 11:00
Qualifying 13:00
Sun 01 November 2009
Race 13:00
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| Quote ="Billy Banter"Congrats to Button. At least he had a go today, and worked his way up the field. He won more races than Hamilton did last year, but it still seems a bit of an anti-climax somehow.
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Fair play to Button but I think he had no Real competiton and thats what makes a Champion even Schumacer had competition in his championships Hill, Villeneuve, and Hakkinen, to name 3
but I just dont picture Button as a champion Driver......
6 years and 113 races without a win can usually tell a tale....
in the same way if Robbie Savage went to Man United and Won the League and cup double and was crowned player of the Year it would just seem "odd"...
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Fair play to Button but I think he had no Real competiton and thats what makes a Champion even Schumacer had competition in his championships Hill, Villeneuve, and Hakkinen, to name 3'"
No real competition?
You mean apart from his team-mate and the two Red Bull drivers?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"No real competition?
You mean apart from his team-mate and the two Red Bull drivers?'"
"Real" competition isnt from a bloke that took 7 years to get his first win in Mark weber
and Hamilton being the exception Rookies like Vettel dont challenge for titles he may have finished 2nd but he never put Button under pressure.......
and Rubens Barrichello should be british he's always the runner up isnt he......
would you fancy Button for the title next year if he stays at Brawn?because Mclaren wont get caught with their pants down again and Ferrari will have Alonso.... so when world champions are competing against him and breathing down his neck every step of the way lets see...
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| Toyota have pulled out of next year's F1 due to "financial reasons". I can see a smug Moseley going "told you so" now, althougth the FIA are checking the legality of the pull out.
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| [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8363892.stmButton confirmed for McLaren[/url
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| Quote ="wire_mad"[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8363892.stmButton confirmed for McLaren[/url'"
thats his world title defence hopes buggered then, Hamilton will wazz all over him when they have the same car.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"thats his world title defence hopes buggered then, Hamilton will wazz all over him when they have the same car.'"
Well either way, it certainly makes things interesting. Wonder if McLaren will stick with the equal treatment to both drivers and let them race each other?
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| Quote ="wire_mad"Well either way, it certainly makes things interesting. Wonder if McLaren will stick with the equal treatment to both drivers and let them race each other?'"
I think they will do.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit""Real" competition isnt from a bloke that took 7 years to get his first win in Mark weber
and Hamilton being the exception Rookies like Vettel dont challenge for titles he may have finished 2nd but he never put Button under pressure.......
and Rubens Barrichello should be british he's always the runner up isnt he......
would you fancy Button for the title next year if he stays at Brawn?because Mclaren wont get caught with their pants down again and Ferrari will have Alonso.... so when world champions are competing against him and breathing down his neck every step of the way lets see...'"
Took Button 5 or 6 didn't it?
Quote ="the flying biscuit""I think they will do.'"
They've always claimed they will.
I'm half wondering if there will be a repeat of the Prost/Senna antics.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"I'm half wondering if there will be a repeat of the Prost/Senna antics.'"
I'd be surprised - I don't think either Button or Hamilton has quite the ego that Prost and Senna had in their prime.
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| [url=http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/motorsport/2009/12/14/mercedes-cough-up-20m-to-get-schuey-back-in-hot-seat-115875-21895870/Schumacher Returns?[/url
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| Quote ="hopie4ever"[url=http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/motorsport/2009/12/14/mercedes-cough-up-20m-to-get-schuey-back-in-hot-seat-115875-21895870/Schumacher Returns?[/url'"
Oh great. ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8493082.stmNew points system that awards the top 10 and new tyre rules ahead of the new season.[/url
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| The same points system as MotoGP near enough. The double diffuser is to do with what Brawn GP did last year I think even though it was legal.
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| Read today that McLaren have managed to get the time to change all 4 wheels down to 2.5seconds.
Given there is no refuling, I hope there will be more overtaking on the track rather than in the pit lane as seemed to have become more common recently.
Given the new points that will hopefully encourage going for a win rather than setling for 2nd I may even give the series a watch this year.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Read today that McLaren have managed to get the time to change all 4 wheels down to 2.5seconds.
Given there is no refuling, I hope there will be more overtaking on the track rather than in the pit lane as seemed to have become more common recently.
Given the new points that will hopefully encourage going for a win rather than setling for 2nd I may even give the series a watch this year.'"
2.5 seconds for all 4 wheels !!!
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"2.5 seconds for all 4 wheels !!!'"
Yups. ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif) a time only topped at the traffic lights in Brixton. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Given there is no refuling, I hope there will be more overtaking on the track rather than in the pit lane as seemed to have become more common recently.'"
While I can understand scrapping refuelling from a H&S point of view (there were a number of incidents with fuel rigs over the last couple of seasons) taking away the additional considerations of when to stop, how heavy will the car be and what does that do to lap times etc will just lead to more processional races where the guy on pole wins IMO.
The design of modern F1 cars makes it aerodynamically difficult to overtake unless you have a clear speed advantage over the car in front. Those cars with a clear speed advantage are going to be up the front of the grid anyway as everyone will be qualifying on the same fuel loads.
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| Gonna be a close season this one, the things I'm excited about the most are the return of Lotus, no more refuelling, the Yorkshire team (Virgin Racing) and the return of the yellow helmet in Bruno Senna. Hope this kid is at least half as good as his uncle was, no pressure son.
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| The scoring system doesn't really appeal to me
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| Thought Vettel had the race wrapped up until the problem with his car towards the end. Ferrari look so strong this year.
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| dull, dull, dull
hope it improves!
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| The new rules haven't changed anything,still hardly any overtaking,if anything there was less with all the cars having the same amount of fuel at the start of the race.I'll watch the indycar series for 5 mins tonight on Sky and will get to see more exitement and overtaking than the whole of the F1 race.
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