Quote ="faxtastic"Just Watched the start of the cricket, Aus v WI. i notice even cricket now has a challenge system in where challening the umpires decision is allowed a certain amount of times. />


so Tennis, Cricket use this system why cant it be introduced into Football. i understand that it can slow games down if you let them challenge every decision but in tennis your allowed 3 challenges and its a system that works well.'" />
Isn't that the one where if the player wins the challenge, then he doesn't lose one of his/her 3 challenges? With most managers having monitors near the dug out, this could lead to unlimited challenges as they would look at the replay and decide whether to challenge or not, an would probably only challenge if they knew they would get the decision. One way round it could be they get a certain amount of challenges per game and they "lose" (for want of a better word) a challenge whether the decision was correct or not.

Quote ="faxtastic"Just Watched the start of the cricket, Aus v WI. i notice even cricket now has a challenge system in where challening the umpires decision is allowed a certain amount of times. />


so Tennis, Cricket use this system why cant it be introduced into Football. i understand that it can slow games down if you let them challenge every decision but in tennis your allowed 3 challenges and its a system that works well.'" />
Isn't that the one where if the player wins the challenge, then he doesn't lose one of his/her 3 challenges? With most managers having monitors near the dug out, this could lead to unlimited challenges as they would look at the replay and decide whether to challenge or not, an would probably only challenge if they knew they would get the decision. One way round it could be they get a certain amount of challenges per game and they "lose" (for want of a better word) a challenge whether the decision was correct or not.

Quote ="Sam Buca"Head High Tackle questioned my reasoning for following the Reds. />


Its a mixed up world with this alias lark

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I just found your bandwagoners comment amusing and ironic, do you get to Anfield often?

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Its a mixed up world with this alias lark

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I just found your bandwagoners comment amusing and ironic, do you get to Anfield often?

Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"Good thing or bad thing?



I'm all for the idea of the '4th offical' having access to a monitor then be able to inform the referee of any doubts there may be. But only over goals and penalty decisions.



Only problem I foresee is every goal being scored there being several players running to the referee asking them to 'go to the screen'.'"



Good in ways, bad in others. After what Mourinho done with the monitors when he was dragging it out for the ref to look at, I can see why they banned them, but, it was a poor call IIRC so, if they were to bring in a referral system of some sort, surely it would be a bit easier if the coaching staff can watch on the sideline before they refer it, or would it be an on-field decision only?



As for players running to the ref, are you accusing them of being dishonest and trying to con the referee?

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Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"Good thing or bad thing?



I'm all for the idea of the '4th offical' having access to a monitor then be able to inform the referee of any doubts there may be. But only over goals and penalty decisions.



Only problem I foresee is every goal being scored there being several players running to the referee asking them to 'go to the screen'.'"



Good in ways, bad in others. After what Mourinho done with the monitors when he was dragging it out for the ref to look at, I can see why they banned them, but, it was a poor call IIRC so, if they were to bring in a referral system of some sort, surely it would be a bit easier if the coaching staff can watch on the sideline before they refer it, or would it be an on-field decision only?



As for players running to the ref, are you accusing them of being dishonest and trying to con the referee?

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Quote ="Sam Buca"Not as often as I would like. Struggle to get tickets when for games that I want to go see and cant afford to go too often anyhow. I find it amusing how you presume I am a bandwagoner when I've supported the team since I was a young 'un in the mid 90s and were struggling as much as we are now.'" />
Struggling? When was the last time Liverpool didn't make the top 4?

When was the last time Liverpool didn't qualify for Europe?

Now if you'd have been a Latics, Leeds Utd, Burnley or York City supporter you could have said struggle and nobody would have disagreed.

Quote ="Sam Buca"Not as often as I would like. Struggle to get tickets when for games that I want to go see and cant afford to go too often anyhow. I find it amusing how you presume I am a bandwagoner when I've supported the team since I was a young 'un in the mid 90s and were struggling as much as we are now.'" />
Struggling? When was the last time Liverpool didn't make the top 4?

When was the last time Liverpool didn't qualify for Europe?

Now if you'd have been a Latics, Leeds Utd, Burnley or York City supporter you could have said struggle and nobody would have disagreed.

Quote ="Catalancs"Struggling? When was the last time Liverpool didn't make the top 4?

When was the last time Liverpool didn't qualify for Europe?

Now if you'd have been a Latics, Leeds Utd, Burnley or York City supporter you could have said struggle and nobody would have disagreed.'" />


We have struggled to make a huge impact on the League, we should be matching the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd by winning the league, this is the department we've struggled in since winning the old Division one in 1989/1990.

The last time we failed to make the top 4 was 2002/2003.



We are struggling to make that final push and this season has been one of our worst. We should be a top four club but we will be lucky to get that at the minute.



I'll be the first to admit that the teams you've mentioned have struggled, Leeds mainly, but in prospective of what we're expected to have achieved by now, we have struggled too.

Quote ="Catalancs"Struggling? When was the last time Liverpool didn't make the top 4?

When was the last time Liverpool didn't qualify for Europe?

Now if you'd have been a Latics, Leeds Utd, Burnley or York City supporter you could have said struggle and nobody would have disagreed.'" />


We have struggled to make a huge impact on the League, we should be matching the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd by winning the league, this is the department we've struggled in since winning the old Division one in 1989/1990.

The last time we failed to make the top 4 was 2002/2003.



We are struggling to make that final push and this season has been one of our worst. We should be a top four club but we will be lucky to get that at the minute.



I'll be the first to admit that the teams you've mentioned have struggled, Leeds mainly, but in prospective of what we're expected to have achieved by now, we have struggled too.

Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Good in ways, bad in others. After what Mourinho done with the monitors when he was dragging it out for the ref to look at, I can see why they banned them, but, it was a poor call IIRC so, if they were to bring in a referral system of some sort, surely it would be a bit easier if the coaching staff can watch on the sideline before they refer it, or would it be an on-field decision only?



As for players running to the ref, are you accusing them of being dishonest and trying to con the referee? icon_surprised.gif'" />


Noooooo

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They'd never do that. />


I think its a case of the refs discretion of whether an incident should be looked at...maybe the captain can approach the official. />


Another problem thought might be how far back can they go too look at an incident. The ball can stay in play for 3 or 4 mins maximum usually so if a team believed a player of theirs was fouled and no free-kick was given they could then in theory challenege that decision????



I'm all for Video Replays but wouldn't be as straight forward as it seems.

Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Good in ways, bad in others. After what Mourinho done with the monitors when he was dragging it out for the ref to look at, I can see why they banned them, but, it was a poor call IIRC so, if they were to bring in a referral system of some sort, surely it would be a bit easier if the coaching staff can watch on the sideline before they refer it, or would it be an on-field decision only?



As for players running to the ref, are you accusing them of being dishonest and trying to con the referee? icon_surprised.gif'" />


Noooooo

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They'd never do that. />


I think its a case of the refs discretion of whether an incident should be looked at...maybe the captain can approach the official. />


Another problem thought might be how far back can they go too look at an incident. The ball can stay in play for 3 or 4 mins maximum usually so if a team believed a player of theirs was fouled and no free-kick was given they could then in theory challenege that decision????



I'm all for Video Replays but wouldn't be as straight forward as it seems.

Quote ="Sam Buca"We have struggled to make a huge impact on the League, we should be matching the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd by winning the league, this is the department we've struggled in since winning the old Division one in 1989/1990.

The last time we failed to make the top 4 was 2002/2003.



We are struggling to make that final push and this season has been one of our worst. We should be a top four club but we will be lucky to get that at the minute.



I'll be the first to admit that the teams you've mentioned have struggled, Leeds mainly, but in prospective of what we're expected to have achieved by now, we have struggled too.'" />


Why should you be matching Chelsea and Man Utd by winning the league? Your team isn't good enough, let alone your squad.

Quote ="Sam Buca"We have struggled to make a huge impact on the League, we should be matching the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd by winning the league, this is the department we've struggled in since winning the old Division one in 1989/1990.

The last time we failed to make the top 4 was 2002/2003.



We are struggling to make that final push and this season has been one of our worst. We should be a top four club but we will be lucky to get that at the minute.



I'll be the first to admit that the teams you've mentioned have struggled, Leeds mainly, but in prospective of what we're expected to have achieved by now, we have struggled too.'" />


Why should you be matching Chelsea and Man Utd by winning the league? Your team isn't good enough, let alone your squad.

Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"Why should you be matching Chelsea and Man Utd by winning the league? Your team isn't good enough, let alone your squad.'" />


Are we expected to match Chelsea & Man Utd = Yes

Should we match Chelsea & Man Utd = Yes

Are we matching Chelsea & Man Utd = No

Are we struggling = Yes

Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"Why should you be matching Chelsea and Man Utd by winning the league? Your team isn't good enough, let alone your squad.'" />


Are we expected to match Chelsea & Man Utd = Yes

Should we match Chelsea & Man Utd = Yes

Are we matching Chelsea & Man Utd = No

Are we struggling = Yes

Quote ="Sam Buca"Are we expected to match Chelsea & Man Utd = Yes

Should we match Chelsea & Man Utd = Yes

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Why

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Quote ="Sam Buca"Are we expected to match Chelsea & Man Utd = Yes

Should we match Chelsea & Man Utd = Yes

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Why

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Quote ="Sam Buca"Ahh yes, the season we we wont the CL and didn't qualify for it next year.'" />


What?



We did qualify for it that year but we did finish outside of the top 4.

Quote ="Sam Buca"Ahh yes, the season we we wont the CL and didn't qualify for it next year.'" />


What?



We did qualify for it that year but we did finish outside of the top 4.

Quote ="Robbie Rotten"What?



We did qualify for it that year but we did finish outside of the top 4.'"



Ignore him, he's getting his facts and stats off Wikipedia probably.



One thing about LFC fans is they know their clubs history...they don't half go on about it

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Quote ="Robbie Rotten"What?



We did qualify for it that year but we did finish outside of the top 4.'"



Ignore him, he's getting his facts and stats off Wikipedia probably.



One thing about LFC fans is they know their clubs history...they don't half go on about it

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Quote ="Sam Buca"We won the CL in 2005.

We finished outside the CL qualifying places for the 2005/6 season.

Everton got the last CL qualifying place but we got in on the merit that we won the CL the season prior and had to defend it, We had to start in the 1st Qualifying Round IIRC'"



Bending the rules

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Quote ="Sam Buca"We won the CL in 2005.

We finished outside the CL qualifying places for the 2005/6 season.

Everton got the last CL qualifying place but we got in on the merit that we won the CL the season prior and had to defend it, We had to start in the 1st Qualifying Round IIRC'"



Bending the rules

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Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"Why

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I feel that we should be matching the likes of the top 2 (top 2 as i see it) We should be pushing for the title. End of story.

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I feel that we should be matching the likes of the top 2 (top 2 as i see it) We should be pushing for the title. End of story.

Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"Bending the rules

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Was i correct in what i said then? Thought so. />


Yeah and wrongly, although a champion should be able to defend their crown.

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Was i correct in what i said then? Thought so. />


Yeah and wrongly, although a champion should be able to defend their crown.

Quote ="Sam Buca"I feel that we should be matching the likes of the top 2 (top 2 as i see it) We should be pushing for the title. End of story.'" />


Why should Liverpool though? You are not explaining yourself very well are you?



Liverpool's squad isn't good enough to be competing for the title. End of story.

Quote ="Sam Buca"I feel that we should be matching the likes of the top 2 (top 2 as i see it) We should be pushing for the title. End of story.'" />


Why should Liverpool though? You are not explaining yourself very well are you?



Liverpool's squad isn't good enough to be competing for the title. End of story.

Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"Ignore him, he's getting his facts and stats off Wikipedia probably.



One thing about LFC fans is they know their clubs history...they don't half go on about it

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You're awfully chipper for a bluenose. Glass half full kinda guy?

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Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"Ignore him, he's getting his facts and stats off Wikipedia probably.



One thing about LFC fans is they know their clubs history...they don't half go on about it

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You're awfully chipper for a bluenose. Glass half full kinda guy?

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Quote ="Robbie Rotten"You're awfully chipper for a bluenose. Glass half full kinda guy?

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And the room goes quiet...

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And the room goes quiet...