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| Quote ="belgianxiii"True, but Wales have always played a running/passing game, the RL coaching just means that they are better at the way they want to play.'"
france played running rugby about 10 years ago if i remember rightly.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"france played running rugby about 10 years ago if i remember rightly.
when they had ntamack on the wing (is was ntamack wasnt it?)'"
When I went away I thought about France and realised I was unfair in saying Northern Hemisphere RU isn't about running. The French RU at least tried to entertain. Serge Blanco was pretty good to watch sometimes. |
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So where do England go from here?
No creativity in the midfield, no mobility in the back row and a setpiece that is starting to creak having been the foundation for England teams of the past.
May as well throw the baby out with the bathwater and start blooding more young players in the 6 Nations aiming to the 2011 World Cup.
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Am I mistaken? I had read on every page in every newspaper for the past year that Danny Cipriani is the saviour & future of England Rugby (sic). Perhaps talent in yawnion is not necessarily comparable with exposure. Shock.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Am I mistaken? I had read on every page in every newspaper for the past year that Danny Cipriani is the saviour & future of England Rugby (sic). Perhaps talent in yawnion is not necessarily comparable with exposure. Shock.'"
More like Danny Cipriani in early return from serious injury and fails to be as good as he was immediately before he was broken shock.
When 100% he is as good as the hype made out, but with the lack of cover he was rushed back before he recovered full fitness and form.
That said the other 14 on the park didn't help matters and they haven't had their ankle rebuilt in the past 3 months. |
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[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/7757331.stm2011 World Cup[/url
Draw being made this afternoon. England are in the 2nd band, along with Wales and Ireland.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Lol
Did peacock not play in Aus when he was younger?
Every great player should have a spell in the southern hem as it would improve their game no end'"
Johnson didnt have a spell down under, he spent his childhood there and therefore learned his RU playing at junior and senior school before being selected for the Junior All blacks at around 18/19 years of age
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2011 Rugby World Cup draw:
Pool A - New Zealand, France, Tonga, Americas 1, Asia 1
Pool B - Argentina, England, Scotland, Europe 1, play-off winner
Pool C - Australia, Ireland, Italy, Europe 2, Americas 2
Pool D - South Africa, Wales, Fiji, Oceania 1, Africa 1
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How lucky are England to draw the Argies and not one of the big three.
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| Quote ="Oldham Rhino"How lucky are England to draw the Argies and not one of the big three.'"
Depends on the limit of their ambitions.
If they expect to win it (and I accept that's a HUGE leap of faith) it shouldn't matter as they would expect to be able to beat anyone else anyway, if however (as I suspect) they may be looking at a damage limitation exercise.......
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| Quote ="Oldham Rhino"How lucky are England to draw the Argies and not one of the big three.'"
Yeah, but Scotland might be brilliant by then.  |
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| Quote ="tigertot"Am I mistaken? I had read on every page in every newspaper for the past year that Danny Cipriani is the saviour & future of England Rugby (sic). Perhaps talent in yawnion is not necessarily comparable with exposure. Shock.'"
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| Quote ="Billy Banter"2011 Rugby World Cup draw:
Pool A - New Zealand, France, Tonga, Americas 1, Asia 1
Pool B - Argentina, England, Scotland, Europe 1, play-off winner
Pool C - Australia, Ireland, Italy, Europe 2, Americas 2
Pool D - South Africa, Wales, Fiji, Oceania 1, Africa 1'"
interesting to see that those places still up for grabs (e.g. americas 1) are already being credited to teams by various news agencies. is it that much of a foregone conclusion? |
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| Quote ="Shadow"More like Danny Cipriani in early return from serious injury and fails to be as good as he was immediately before he was broken shock.
When 100% he is as good as the hype made out, but with the lack of cover he was rushed back before he recovered full fitness and form.
That said the other 14 on the park didn't help matters and they haven't had their ankle rebuilt in the past 3 months.'"
Agree 100%.
Cipriani is by far the best English rugby player, however, he was rushed back and there was far too much responsibility / pressure on the young lad ahead of the series. |
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| Quote ="Shadow"When 100% he is as good as the hype made out, '"
There's never been an English yawnion player as good as the hype. Ever. |
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Quote ="The Chair Maker"Johnson didnt have a spell down under, he spent his childhood there and therefore learned his RU playing at junior and senior school before being selected for the Junior All blacks at around 18/19 years of age
Johnson came to uk to earn a living as an adult playing RU and then got selected to play for England.'"
That is pure BS!! Was every part of your ‘story’ made up from the top of your head? It's amazing how people want to twist facts and dates to achieve the end goal of knocking RU!
He went over in 1989! He was already 19/20 and he only spent two years there and yes he did play for the NZ u21 side but he had already achieved England honours at the lower levels before this. Plus he had a contract with the tigers in England to come back to! Hardly call that spending his childhood and senior school days there!
www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugb ... html?r=RSS
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www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 759613.ece
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Johnson came to uk to earn a living as an adult playing RU and then got selected to play for England.'"
That is pure BS!! Was every part of your ‘story’ made up from the top of your head? It's amazing how people want to twist facts and dates to achieve the end goal of knocking RU!
He went over in 1989! He was already 19/20 and he only spent two years there and yes he did play for the NZ u21 side but he had already achieved England honours at the lower levels before this. Plus he had a contract with the tigers in England to come back to! Hardly call that spending his childhood and senior school days there!
www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugb ... html?r=RSS
www.telegraph.co.uk/core/Slidesh ... ixjohn.xml
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 759613.ece
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| Quote ="Catalancs"france played running rugby about 10 years ago if i remember rightly.
when they had ntamack on the wing (is was ntamack wasnt it?)'"
Yup, just before the advent of Bernie "the Door" who tried to emulate Woodward's "win at all costs" style. The pinnacle was the last WC with two French squads able to compete at the highest level, and not one French team with the flair of old.
That's part of the reason I started supporting Wales, at least they'd rather lose playing running rugby than win England style. |
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Shocked to get home this evening and find out the barbars lost. I've not yet seen the score or the game - sky+ it. Any comments from any non bitters?
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| Quote ="TARANIS"Shocked to get home this evening and find out the barbars lost. I've not yet seen the score or the game - sky+ it. Any comments from any non bitters?'"
Australia celebrated the centenary of their 1908 Olympic gold medal by beating the Barbarians 18-11 at Wembley.
[urlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyunion/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rugby/08/12/03/manual_221244.html[/url |
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Australia celebrated the centenary of their 1908 Olympic gold medal by beating the Barbarians 18-11 at Wembley.
[urlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyunion/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rugby/08/12/03/manual_221244.html[/url'" What was the purpose of this game? |
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| Quote ="manly4ever"What was the purpose of this game?'"
you tell me
in other union news...
[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/dec/02/rugby-union-england-world-cup-2015-italy-twickenham-russia[/url
80 million just to host the thing! 
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in other union news...
[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/dec/02/rugby-union-england-world-cup-2015-italy-twickenham-russia[/url
80 million just to host the thing!
and interesting to see that scotland couldnt sell out a home game'" Lol .
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| Quote ="manly4ever"Lol .
By the way this morning before I went to work I dropped in my old man's house and he was watching It .He told me, couldnt they play this game at night time,atleast It would've put me to sleep.
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| Quote ="manly4ever"What was the purpose of this game?'"
"Australia celebrated the centenary of their 1908 Olympic gold medal by beating the Barbarians 18-11 at Wembley." |
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| Quote ="TARANIS""Australia celebrated the centenary of their 1908 Olympic gold medal by beating the Barbarians 18-11 at Wembley."'"
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