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Couldn’t be more evident than tonight.

Total lack of go forward from the lads who are meant to lay a platform.

Leigh had one player who took our pack apart in his first spell, Adam Sidlow.

That’s a major issue.

There were plenty of other issues too but without doubt the biggest issue is the lack of a top quality, or maybe even 2 props.

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If you're the opposition and win the toss you kick off against us, nailed on we'll be kicking from inside the 40 and on the back foot from the start, tonight a prime example.

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Quote: jonh "Couldn’t be more evident than tonight.

Total lack of go forward from the lads who are meant to lay a platform.

Leigh had one player who took our pack apart in his first spell, Adam Sidlow.

That’s a major issue.

There were plenty of other issues too but without doubt the biggest issue is the lack of a top quality, maybe be 2 props.'"



Adam Sidlow, a big prop from Whelley and without a club only three months ago, was never on the radar and wouldn't have cost the earth. Yet we let him slip through our fingers. Barmy.

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I’m a bit torn, yes we need a big metre making prop but when you start a game at 5mph and the other side start at 100mph, it doesn’t matter if you have Morley, Peacock or Singleton starting. I thought Partington started ok but Bullock and Singleton got bullied and that is a worry. Ultimately though you need to go full tilt as a team and only one side looked like it could be bothered in that first half hour.

We’ve been beaten many times in Leigh’s cup final though. I think we’ll class that as one of our best wins come the end of this season.

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Havard is a big concern for me.

He looks like a potential Ian Lucas.

All the physical gifts of a great prop but lacks the edge required to be a dominant prop.

Partington and Byrne were the only middles that took the fight back to Leigh.

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Long gone are the days of Platt and Skerrett

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We’ve been like this for years and managed to win trophies.

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Harvard made meters and has some stamina, the team were on top with Harvard, Byrne and Smithies in the middle. Partington was the most aggressive Bullock better second stint. We seem to get little from whichever pair of props start but have the fitness to wear teams down.

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We won last night because of our fitness. I said to the misses that we’ll nail them from 65mins as they’ve blown themselves in the first 30. I don’t think we played any better, just Leigh were done. Against any other SL team we would’ve lost.

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Quote: MR FRISK "Long gone are the days of Platt and Skerrett'"


Well, yeah ... seeing as both are now nearly 60.

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Last season showed we have a real prop problem, to the point we made an emergency signing who solidified the pack. We've now spent an entire off season offloading two dead weight (who both should never have been signed) and replaced them with nought. Recruitment has been the biggest issue at this club for the last decade and will continue to be with Rads in charge.

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Quote: jonh "Havard is a big concern for me.

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Is he?

Thought we started to get back on top of the game when he came on. His work rate is unbelievable.

Huge potential and already a very good player now imo.

Him re-signing and not going the NRL was huge for us.

Pack is crying out for a elite metre eating prop, in the Watts, Thompson, Cooper mold. I thought the club realised this last year the GBurgess signing who pre injury was just the type of player we need.

There’s not many around I guess and they don’t come cheap.

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Quote: NSW "Is he?

Thought we started to get back on top of the game when he came on. His work rate is unbelievable.

Huge potential and already a very good player now imo.

Him re-signing and not going the NRL was huge for us.

Pack is crying out for a elite metre eating prop, in the Watts, Thompson, Cooper mold. I thought the club realised this last year the GBurgess signing who pre injury was just the type of player we need.

There’s not many around I guess and they don’t come cheap.'"



Probably not a good choice of words by me to be fair.

He clearly has the quality and the athletic ability/physical gifts to be a top prop.

I just think at the moment he lacks that aggressive side that both Partington and Byrne displayed last night to fight back against the Leigh pack.

My worry is that, that’s either in you or it isn’t and from what I’ve seen of him so far it isn’t in him.

Coley was a similar player physically and he lacked that bit of aggression until Madge came in, I’m hoping Havard can do the same.

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Quote: NSW "Pack is crying out for a elite metre eating prop, in the Watts, Thompson, Cooper mold. I thought the club realised this last year the GBurgess signing who pre injury was just the type of player we need.'"


Pack is also crying out to play anything apart from one-up rugby. We played into Leigh’s hands massively last night by sending play after play back into the ruck area, which they were stacking out with the big lads. The whole idea of a mobile pack is that we play it in that way...run in pairs, play off halves. Havard would have had an absolute field day if we did this last night, and Bullick would given he’s quick for a prop.

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Hopefully once we give it a couple of months the NRL market will open up and we can pick a prop up on the fringes/out of favour. I think we’ll need one as the season goes on but in fairness the young props did a good job last night. We needed more from Singleton and Bullock in that first spell.

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