Much has been made lately of our defensive frailties under the high ball, with Marshall getting much of the stick. But what about when the boot is on the other foot? High kicks to the corner are one of the principal methods of try-scoring in the modern game. We have two tall lads in Burgess and Davies, and yet I struggle to remember us scoring from well placed kicks to the corner. We used to do it when Manfredi was in the side, but since his departure it seems to have virtually disappeared from our game. I'm not imagining this, am I? Are our kicking skills that poor? In fact, thinking about it, the last such try I do recall (can't remember who against) was from a Lockers kick.

High balls to wingers is fading out for most teams. The ploy now is to kick it over the spot where the half backs defend and get the taller 2nd rows and centres to challenge. It worked for Wakey yesterday when it went above Leuluai and he was out-jumped. You don't see many kicks to the wingers these days.

It's difficult to score off any of Tommys bombs in fairness. They look like the type of kick you put up for your six year old in the park.

I can't watch another season of Tommy kicking tbh. If he's still at scrum half next year I'm going to just start shutting my eyes on the last tackle.

Personally, I'd make tries from bombs worth three points only. I'm bored silly watching that "tactic".

I've been calling for it for months. We can barely score at all though never mind from something that actually takes practice.

Word.

I thought that was what he did!

agree Jimmy, think 3 points is 1 too many personally. Hull in particular use it well with Fonua. But it is so boring to constantly watch

It wasn't boring at Wembley!!!

So, you want to dilute the value of a try from a kick because it's a difficult skill to get right? Or is it simply that your team can neither defend them nor git anyone with the required skills to perform one?

What is boring to watch is the Wane speciality of causing as much messing around at the ruck as possible. But I am guessing you are blind to that.

You still do in the NRL. But hey, what do they know?

Our arsing about at the ruck is appalling a bit like watching your number 2 who wants a free kick every time he gets tackled

Agreed, but I'll trump that with ST complaining to the referee every time the ball is out of play!!

What does he actually say??

"honest ref, I used to be brilliant, thats why wigan have me as a marquee player...honestly I am stealing a living"

Welcome to my ignore list. You'll fit right in.

Wigan have a poor end to a season and the envy of other clubs is clearly demonstrated by clowns like you. I note that u came nowhere near the Wigan forum after your middle 8s game against Batley last year?