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| They were all fantastic last night:
Sarginson - looked natural at FB and chimed in to the line at the right time. Think he looked really dangerous with his hands on the ball a lot more. More promising that Tierney for sure.
Charnley - MOM for me, he was brilliant both in attack, making over 200 metres and in defence (where he ran from his own in goal and got us out of trouble was great). He looks likes he's had a great pre season and is fully fit again. Certainly looking closer to his old form so far.
Manfredi - I think this lad is special, he very rarely makes a mistake under the high ball and he's a fantastic kick returner - that break was magic last night. Not a bad finisher either, think international honours won't be far away.
Gelling - Getting better and better. Similar to Charnley, looks like he's in great condition after a full pre season and its paying off. He's consistently been one of our better performers this season.
Gildart - Was really pleased he got a shot at centre again last night and he certainly took it. He's not the biggest but holds his own and has fantastic footwork which causes problems for opposition big men. He knows his way to the try line too. Going to be a really good player in the future.
The promising thing is we've got Sam Tomkins coming back into the frame and the majority of that line are still young and got their best years ahead. The futures bright!
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| Get Tomkins and Williams in to our back line and we're going to see some really good rugby later in the season The one thing I think gets underestimated is how much a player like Tomkins drags out of the other lads. He will give them all a shot in the arm and he's another leader.
The most pleasing performance last night was Charnley without a doubt. He is playing at full throttle and looks a yard sharper then the last two years. If there's anybody I expect to kick on with Tomkins alongside them then it's him.
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| That was the Charnley of 2010/11 last night. Over the moon - looks to have regained both the strength and pace that made him so dangerous.
Agree about the rest of the backline as well - lots of positives. Sarginson's enthusiasm and workrate, Gildart's footwork, Manfredi's aggressive running (although I did feel that he seems to have lost a yard or two of pace since a year or so ago) and I was also pleased to see Gelling using far more common sense than usual. I remember a couple of occasions where he seemed tempted to throw a risky offload but opted to keep it safe - the sensible option in light of the scoreline at the time.
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| Quote: MadDogg "That was the Charnley of 2010/11 last night. Over the moon - looks to have regained both the strength and pace that made him so dangerous.
Agree about the rest of the backline as well - lots of positives. Sarginson's enthusiasm and workrate, Gildart's footwork, Manfredi's aggressive running (although I did feel that he seems to have lost a yard or two of pace since a year or so ago) and I was also pleased to see Gelling using far more common sense than usual. I remember a couple of occasions where he seemed tempted to throw a risky offload but opted to keep it safe - the sensible option in light of the scoreline at the time.'"
I think this three quarter line has the making of being something special, especially if Wigan can get a settled set of halfbacks. Both wingers and the fullback give fans a lot of confidence when under the high ball, I think even though he made a few mistakes last night Sarge showed an eye for a gap when linking up, it just needs the timing of the pass to him and the weight on it to make him very dangerous.
One little gripe I always have is we lie so flat even when in attack, I think this is the reason a lot of passes are rushed and go to ground or are touched by a defender because they are in our faces.
I said at the beginning of the season that I though Gildart may be a bit to small, but he seems to be overcoming that with his footwork and agility coupled with a fair turn of speed.
As to the comment that Manfredi seems to have lost a yard of pace, I think the reason he seemed to be a bit lacking last night during that long run was down to the amount of tackles he evaded making it.
Several times during that run he had to shrug off some big lads who seemed to have hold of him several times, this had the effect of making him break his stride and then having to try and get up to speed again.
He was only the width of a boot from scoring a great individual try.
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| I agree about the flat line attack, i prefer depth, which would give these guys options to use their pace.
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| Agreed, plus their defensive work also impresses. Should really have nilled them for the first time this century, but for one last minute lapse.
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| Ironically, our outside backs seemingly lay the playform for our forwards.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "Ironically, our outside backs seemingly lay the playform for our forwards.'"
Did the same last year. Sarginson was used as a battering ram from our try line on countless occasions until his injury.
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| According to the BBC Charnley is talking with Sale about a move to RU. Very disappointed if that happens. I don't think he's strong enough in the tackle for internationals but he's a fine club winger.
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| Sarginson can't pass so any threat he has disappears when has to offload. Some of his passes last week were atrocious for a full time pro. His pass into touch in the second half was unbelievable in its execution. What he did well was to give us a sense of urgency and go forward. I haven't clue where his best position is.
Can Gelling actually complete a two handed pass? Better at 4 than 3.
Gildart looks an exciting prospect with great footwork.
I like Manfredi but think he lacks a bit of pace to be a top class winger.
Charnley I think has declined from a top notch winger to average Joe with very little threat however, I thought there was a big improvement last week so hopefully he can get back to something like his old self.
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| Josh had by far his best game for Wigan for several years last Friday. He seems to have rediscovered his pace and made a couple of fantastic runs - reminded me of the CC Q/F win against Warrington in 2011 when he ran 90 metres and scored a crucial try.
He certainly looked hungrier - the key to all this is consistency and he needs to be performing at this level every week.
I read somewhere he had made over 220 metres against Leeds - a phenomenal amount. If he and Manfredi continue their rich vein of form, we are in for a very good season - the return of Sam will hopefully be the catalyst behind all the backs finally gelling as a unit this season.
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| Quote: Fames " backs finally gelling .'"
See what you did there
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| Quote: NSW "See what you did there'"
I did so deliberately - thought it most appropriate as Gelling will hopefully be playing a big part in the gelling.....!
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