Solid game lacked a bit of physicality, but his delivery from the ruck was outstanding. Best I have seen from a Wigan 9 since Martin Hall. Clean crisp accurate and quick off both hands.

Williams was poor in the same department but early days for both.

We must have watched a different player. Most of his passes arrived at head height and I felt they were quite lofted, not at all crisp.

Dave the fact you disagree fills me with happiness because that confirms I am right.

I thought Tomkins was pretty disappointing. His defence was awful in terms of physicality. I don't think he won a single collision in the entire match. His passing was poor, his decision making wasn't great and whenever he ran with the ball he stopped momentum because he had no strength to trouble the defence and couldn't get a quick play the ball. I think his only positive moment was a good spot from dummy half to go down the short side in the build up to Farrell's try.

Williams' passing wasn't spot on all the time but it's an unfamiliar role for him. In general though he was quicker than Logan and his defence was far better as he had much more luck dominating the tackles. Williams has far more ability than Tomkins in general.

I suggest you read cherry pies post. It will make you unhappy though because it will confirm you are wrong but so it goes.

No it will confirm you are both wrong.

His delivery for me was great tonight. Straight off the deck, at the line and accurate.

As I said in my original post he lacked the physicality, but his delivery fore was outstanding.

Tomkins very disappointing, still not a Super League player. Just too slow in attack, barely takes a line on, and in defence is found very lacking.

Williams was not perfect but it is not his preferred position. He was quicker, less telegraphed and stood up better in defence.

We'll I was watching a different game. Confirmed.

Well its three an counting...



His delivery was slow and too the head more often than not. Players had to stop an reach for the ball.



You[i really[/i don't know what you are talking about if you think that.

I will happily watch it again tomorrow and put my hand up if I am wrong.

Me too. I am working tomorrow (ireally should go to bed!) and so won't have the chance but if you do, watch the height at which most of his passes reach the player.

your not..he had a solid game.
Passing was good, got more confident as the game went on and started running then passing, a good hooker performance imo.
Tackling was spot on, text book most of the time, not physical but thats his build, he'll be better when he bulks up.
Still only young for a 9 and i am happy with him as long term replacement for MM

For his average standard he played very well, I like his attitude but he's not up to the Wigan grade just yet. maybe another 2 seasons

Agreed. Ideal player for Widnes in 2 yrs.

Watch the first try of the second half. Logan scoots, takes on the line and passes to Pettybourne who continues the play until Farrell finishes the move with the try. Quality work from Tomkins.

Some people , on here,don't like Logan because he isn't Sam. They expect him to have all the skills of his brother.