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Much better game today, skinned the Cas player for his try and made about three try saving tackles.

Thoughts on the try he let in?
Did the referee impede him? It looked that way from where we were stood.

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Agree thought he was much more improved, he is great under the high ball. Would need to see the try he let in again to comment.

Have seen people still slating him on twitter, mostly people who I know didn't to to the game, just hope he doesn't read these and take it to heart.

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I thought he moved too far over to the left which meant he was out of position when the grubber went through. Was an unlucky bounce and he may have been impeded, but had his initial positioning been better it wouldn't have mattered IMO. He was very good apart from that one mistake though.

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Still not good enough and tbh he was very shaky under those high balls, to say apart from that he was very good just isn't true (imo that is)

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Very shaky under the high balls? He was solid and didn't drop one. If Ryan Hampshire had played the way Bowen did today he would have a 3 page thread with praise.

Bowen cannot win at Wigan with some of our fans attitude towards him, it's embarrassing.

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Quote: FIOS "Very shaky under the high balls? He was solid and didn't drop one. If Ryan Hampshire had played the way Bowen did today he would have a 3 page thread with praise.

Bowen cannot win at Wigan with some of our fans attitude towards him, it's embarrassing.'"


Were where you stood?

Where i was the opinion on him was pretty damning all the way through the match

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Give him a chance, this is the Pat Richards thing all over again, he did fine under the high ball today, keep going Matty.

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Quote: rochdale warrior "Give him a chance, this is the Pat Richards thing all over again, he did fine under the high ball today, keep going Matty.'"


I'm going to give him a chance that's not an issue, i'd prefer to see Rocky in the position though as Bowen was always a temp solution

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Bowen was impeded for their try from the grubber kick.
I was at the side of the sticks and it was very plain that he was in a good position to take the kick but a Cas player pulled him back by his shirt and pulled him to the ground.
The ref may not have seen it but the I G judge had an unobstructed view of it.
Thought Bowen did well. Took the high balls fine and beat Shenton on the outside very well for his try. A few try saving tackles too. Just a few games in for him, I think he'll go ok this season.

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Quote: Kaii "Where i was the opinion on him was pretty damning all the way through the match'"


That's because we have a large number of supporters who are quite frankly embarrassing.

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Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy "That's because we have a large number of supporters who are quite frankly embarrassing.'"


So that travelling support base that turn up in big numbers, make lots of noise and generally thought of as being the proper fans are basically embarrassing? Once the 2 min highlights came on wigan tv all the experts came out of the woodwork.
Which is more embarrassing the fans that travel and make their own minds up or the vast majority here who pretend they go? Embarrassing fans... the cheek of it coming from a keyboard warrior icon_wink.gif

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I'm prepared to give him all the time he needs to get his form where it needs to be but he was poor again IMO yesterday. He just isn't involved enough in the attacking line and seems happy to just take a back seat. He needs to start commanding games more and demanding the ball because we all know how good he can be and we need to see that form. I link that back to saying I'll give him time though as it will take that for him to settle and feel confident enough to start calling the shots I suppose.

As for his mistake, the ref got in his way but he was so slow to react. He should have been more switched on and if you need to, do a Tomkins and get the ref out the way with a push.

Overall it was a minor improvement from him but still miles away from what he's capable of.

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Yesterday was an improvement, no doubt. Solid under the high ball, some good tackling, my first thought was that he was impeded by ref for the try. (The ref was pretty good by the way - no complaints about the result)

But my point is this - Without Lockers we were like a team of headless chickens yesterday. No organisation at all. Micky Mac is not a skipper I'm afraid. Are we not entitled to some leadership from a supposedly "world class" player?

By all accounts Sam is shouting himself ho at NZW, and he's only settling in, same as Bowen.

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Quote: Kaii "So that travelling support base that turn up in big numbers, make lots of noise and generally thought of as being the proper fans are basically embarrassing? Once the 2 min highlights came on wigan tv all the experts came out of the woodwork.
Which is more embarrassing the fans that travel and make their own minds up or the vast majority here who pretend they go? Embarrassing fans... the cheek of it coming from a keyboard warrior
How many times was "get rid and get the kids in" mentioned?

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It's typical of a large number of our fans who decide on a player's worth after a couple of games. You'd think experience would tell them it might be worth waiting a bit longer.

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Quote: Kaii "I'm going to give him a chance that's not an issue, i'd prefer to see Rocky in the position though as Bowen was always a temp solution'"


Its a shame that Hardaker was imjured yesterday and couldnt play for us. oh, wait a minute...................

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