Why, After such an explosive start in SL is he suddenly not getting a look in against the likes of Hull KR and London. Im all for development but he could and should in reality have been benched yesterday to interchange with Lockers for next week. I understand that its bloody tough rotating the forwards with what we have and Lauaki making a big impact in the last couple of weeks but we need to find a medium so that they all get game time. 2 opportunities dropped to keep the momentum going.

Hardly been dropped. More likely rested, which is what we should be doing. Especially with 20-year olds in their debut seasons.

Rest!

Come off it, Rested for about 6 or 7 games. I would say that is being dropped. Made a bigger impact that Mossop has all season.

I can't wait until he leaves, The myth that him and Prescott are good players makes me laugh. Neither of them can hold onto the ball.

You only need to look at Fielden to see what happens when a young prop plays too much game time. I believe our young forwards are being introduced correctly and it will pay dividends in the long run. Mossop was oustanding and lead the pack against London.

Not getting in to a debate about who shouldn't be in but I probably sit in the camp that says Burke has had long enough out of the team now and its about time he got another shot. I think we did the right thing a few weeks back, pulling him out of the fire to keep him nice and fresh but I do believe he's now had long enough. His form this year for the first team was excellent at a time when we really needed him to step up due to injury.

There is a fine line between giving the youngsters enough rest and holding them back a bit too long. IMO we risk the second option with Burke unless we start to get him involved again pretty soon. We need to keep that belief and confidence he must have up by keep getting him involved when we can.

I'd start him at Wakey the week after Leeds.

Why not just leave it to the Coaching staff to decide who plays?

Quote: Cherry_Warrior "Rest! Come off it, Rested for about 6 or 7 games. I would say that is being dropped. Made a bigger impact that Mossop has all season. I can't wait until he leaves, The myth that him and Prescott are good players makes me laugh. Neither of them can hold onto the ball.'" He's missed 4 games not 7 wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... ge_id=1767

Quote: Cherry_Warrior "Rest! Come off it, Rested for about 6 or 7 games. I would say that is being dropped. Made a bigger impact that Mossop has all season. I can't wait until he leaves, The myth that him and Prescott are good players makes me laugh. Neither of them can hold onto the ball.'" He's missed 4 games not 7 wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... ge_id=1767

He has been rewarded with a new deal and now just has o wait for his chances. Personally i am made up to see topics like this when all through the pre season people were concerned we wouldnt hav a pack at all!!

Thats a very good point. I was one who thought that we had lost too much in the pack. Just shows how little we know...... Or how the standard of SL has slipped...


Just thought i would stir it a bit at the end there..

At one point earlier in the season then especially against Wakey I thought our young lads in the pack were starting to get bullied.
They won't now Lauaki's back and most certainly won't when Andy Powell is on the field.
As far as I'm concerned Lauaki and Powell should be interchaged. Just to let the opposition know that if at any time they start giving our young lads some grief it will be nothing like the grief they'll get back in return.
We've had a fair few belted this year and that didn't happen when we had Gaz Hock out there. He isn't coming back anytime soon so someone else needs to be out in the middle.

Lauaki doesn't strike me as a player who intimidates the opposition or as some sort of enforcer type in the Hock mould. Now Micky Mac is a player I doubt any opposition player of any size would want to argue with. Powell has a reputation of being a hard man but we will have to see if he's any good and if it translates over to RL before we pencil him in as an enforcer.

Why props are out of contract this year? Apart from Mossop leaving I am not sure who is. Lauki has another year to go. Dudson? Flower? Prescott?

No way is Lauaki an enforcer. McIlorum's our man if things get tasty. I'm sure Hansen and Lockers can handle themselves too

I don't get the opinion that we need a fighter in the pack that will look after the kids. I say that because I believe this season, more then any other recent seasons we've really stuck up for ourselves and our pack is yet to get trampled by anyone, including Wire for a change.

I want props that tackle hard and run hard that ideally have good discipline and keep errors to a minimum. If they can't fight it doesn't really concern me.

Also as pointed out if we need this enforcer type Micky Mac does that job just fine. He has that intimidation factor and that will only increase with experience and as the old guard like Morley and Peacock retire. You only needed to watch him and also Hansen at HKR after the hit on Green to realise we're not short on that score.

i think what people mean about lauaki is he certainly has the size to throw about, and doesnt necessarily go down easily compared to the smaller forwards weve played like burke and flower. not to say they arent aggressive and go down easily, but size and presence is always going to be a bonus.