how was wheelers dissalowed try restarted with a drop out?

if he knocked on it shud of been wigan ball either restarted with a ptb or scrum.
if the ball was knocked out by a wigan player it should of been a penalty to saints.

so how was this a drop out??????

Tommy grounded the ball on try line. Drop out was right decision.

well he must of knocked on then?? so therefore no advantage to wigan scrum to wigan

Yeah that would have been the right decision but how did he come to ground the ball over the line? Did wheeler drop it? Because if so that should have been scrum to Wigan. And if tommy ripped it out then grounded it then that should have been a penalty to saints. Don't understand it myself.

Said the same at the game i dont know how it could of been a drop out restart. Either a knock on or a ball strip end of story.

I thought the same at the game and was baffled by that decision. When I got home and watched it on the tele I think the ref got it right.

The ball was knocked out by the Wigan player which was clear to see, the ref went to the VR to see if Wheeler had regained the ball and scored. The ball had been knocked out but then a wigan player grounded it.

Why wasn't it a penalty then

If its in the act of scoring a try, the defending player has a right to play at the ball whether there is more that one player in the tackle or not. We managed to strip it. It was then play on until Tommy grounded it, hence the drop out.

A similar thing happened to Pat a few years ago trying to score in the final minutes at Wakefield.

If it's stripped (or knocked out in this case) in the act of scoring, it's still a penalty to the attacking team.

As the OP said, Wheeler either knocked on (because it definitely went forward) or it was illegally stolen. It can't have been a drop-out and the VR got it wrong.

Am i wrong in saying you can legally rip the ball out if it is in the act of scoring a try?

You are wrong. It cant be a penalty try though and is just a penalty to the attacking team.

I seem to remember we did not get awarded the penalty in the wakefield game. Correct me if im wrong.

It's a confusing one. I expected a penalty to saints for a strip. Wheeler was short of the line either way so couldn't have been a penalty try.

I can only assume that it must be legal for the defenders to knock the ball out regardless of how many men are involved in the tackle when it's in the act of scoring a try, That's the only situation I can think of to warrant the drop out being awarded. Otherwise it should have been a scrum to Wigan for a knock on... or a penalty to saints for a 2 on 1 strip. Had it been just stripped one on one then Tommy grounded then the drop out would have been right. hmmm can anyone clarify if thats the actual rule?

Wakefield got a scrum (or 20 metre tap, can't remember) because the VR adjudged that Richards knocked on.

You cannot strip the ball with 2 defenders in the tackle - it doesn't matter where on the pitch it is.

The rule was changed so a penalty try could not be given if the ball was stripped illegally in the act of scoring a try. Now if it is stripped illegally, it's just a penalty.