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Has anyone got the players stats for yesterdays game? Thanks.

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Hopefully that's clear and large enough for people to see.

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Expect better from our forwards. I thought our front row where dominated yesterday. And I think them stats, bar lima are pretty average from the front row.

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Poor stats concerning the forwards with Lima and Sean O'Loughlin the obvious exceptions, I can't help but think where going backwards in most departments under Wane.

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If our forwards collectively put that kind of wet lettuce performance in on Friday, we'll need a calculator to add up the Dire's score.

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Quote: TrentBarrett "Poor stats concerning the forwards with Lima and Sean O'Loughlin the obvious exceptions, I can't help but think where going backwards in most departments under Wane.'"


It's hard to tell whether we match up to last year in the forwards to be honest. Statistically I don't think there's a massive difference but it's early in the season and the averages can change dramatically from week to week.

Going off what we all see on the pitch though I still have my doubts as to whether Flower and Lauaki are suitable replacements for Coley.

Lauaki seems very hit and miss. He doesn't make many tackles during most games but he's had some good strong performances as well as ones where he looks like he couldn't care less.
As for Flower he's very ineffective running the ball and is so small he just gets dominated in the tackle time and time again. He has the chance to make up for that with his excellent defensive work rate but unfortunately he's let himself down by missing some simple tackles on several occasions and suffering from poor positioning.

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Thanks Cherry.Pie for the stats.

Tuson's stats are appalling, not for the first time this season either. I cant see how he is in the 17 or what he offers to the team. As others have said though a very disappointing set of stats from the forwards in general, bar Lima, and they will have to up their game a lot on Friday.

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Missed Mossop.

Please tell me he will play against wire.

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Quote: Famous "Thanks Cherry.Pie for the stats.

Tuson's stats are appalling, not for the first time this season either. I cant see how he is in the 17 or what he offers to the team. As others have said though a very disappointing set of stats from the forwards in general, bar Lima, and they will have to up their game a lot on Friday.'"


Tuson only came on in the 2nd half to spell McIlorum. He seems to be at the bottom of the pecking order when it comes to getting off the bench. Only got on the field for about 10 minutes yesterday. Hard to make an impact in that short a space of time

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Quote: Odem "Missed Mossop.

Please tell me he will play against wire.'"


I'd be amazed if he plays.

There wasn't any real intensity to the game though, and Child was whistle happy too which doesn't help forward momentum. We'll be better on Friday.

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Quote: dirtbag83 "Tuson only came on in the 2nd half to spell McIlorum. He seems to be at the bottom of the pecking order when it comes to getting off the bench. Only got on the field for about 10 minutes yesterday. Hard to make an impact in that short a space of time'"


When he has played longer his stats have still been poor. In a way though what you are saying just backs up what I mean. If he is thought of so poorly then he is just a waste of a bench spot and we may as well have another prop on there.

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Quote: Guerrier "I'd be amazed if he plays.

There wasn't any real intensity to the game though, and Child was whistle happy too which doesn't help forward momentum. We'll be better on Friday.'"


We need him to play in my opinion. What is wrong with him? I can't even remember?

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Quote: Famous "When he has played longer his stats have still been poor. In a way though what you are saying just backs up what I mean. If he is thought of so poorly then he is just a waste of a bench spot and we may as well have another prop on there.'"


I'd say we might as well have Mellor, Powell, Russell or Logan Tomkins on the bench given the importance of having one or two of those players stepping up. If Tuson barely gets on the pitch there's little point in him being used. Farrell or Flower could be used at 13 if Wane still wanted to move O'Loughlin to 6 so he wouldn't be forced into playing one of the youngsters but they'd be there on the bench if needed. It might just let us have a player on the bench who can really change a game.

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Disappointing stats from a disappointing performance, not surprising really.

The team struggle for motivation against the lower sides IMO. We've seen what we can do against the likes of Leeds and Catalan when the players want it enough, and we've seen equally what they can do to the likes of Castleford and Bradford when in the correct frame of mind. It's about finding that right mentality each and every week.

I do think we'll put in a top performance this week though, the players have shown they can rise to the occasion for the big one's.

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Quote: Cherry.Pie "I'd say we might as well have Mellor, Powell, Russell or Logan Tomkins on the bench given the importance of having one or two of those players stepping up. If Tuson barely gets on the pitch there's little point in him being used. Farrell or Flower could be used at 13 if Wane still wanted to move O'Loughlin to 6 so he wouldn't be forced into playing one of the youngsters but they'd be there on the bench if needed. It might just let us have a player on the bench who can really change a game.'"


He's played well so far this year Tuson, even with the limited amount of game time he's received.

I liked the idea of trying Russel in a few games at 9. I'm not talking about moving him there permanently. But Russel coming off the bench in the latter stages of a match with his speed, strength and footwork could cause a fair few problems for a tiring defense.

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