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I used do this years ago and I'm bringing it back. A simple idea you list the things to praise about the performance and whats making you grumble.

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Praise - Hard to see any positives.


Grumble - No co -ordination in the backs, out fought by a weakened Giants pack - No kick,kick,kicking game

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Praise - We did attempt to spread the ball, Finch had a lot of possession, we should get much better as the season goes on.

Grumble - Wane's hard line approach, he's an old school coach who expects to win every week, with this squad it isn't possible. If i hear him use the word 'tough' and ''hard taskmaster' again il scream.

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[size=100:2md8k3b3][b:2md8k3b3]'Do you remember when we had that meeting in Orlando? We talked about how we were knocked out the previous year by Leeds. And at the end, I asked you one question. "Do you want to be a semi-final team? Or do you want to do something special?" You all said you wanted to win. But talking is easy – it needed you to believe. It needed you to work hard – harder than you had – and make sacrifices. You did all that. you worked for each other. You stuck together when it was tough. And because of your efforts, you sit here tonight as champions. I'm proud of you. Be proud of yourselves. You've done something special.' [color=red:2md8k3b3] Shaun Wane's post-Grand Final speech. 5th October 2013.[/color:2md8k3b3][/b:2md8k3b3][/size:2md8k3b3]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16304.jpg



Praise:
Forwards ran hard all afternoon & mostly tackled/defended well.

Grumble:
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Good attacking plays coming to nowt after a loose pass or the ball going to ground

No pressure being put on Danny Brough every time he kicked meaning he had time to pick his spot

Four forwards on the bench meaning the team having to shuffle in order to accommodate Tommy going to 9 (where he should be)

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Praise - we didnt get flogged. We'll improve.

Grumble - we were poor

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Praise - first game of the season no need to panic

Grumble - We looked so rusty why are we only playing 2 warm up games when we have a tough start to the season

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Praise - Mossop showed again he'll be the pack leader, and Farrell's angled runs are a joy to watch.

Grumble -The non-existent kicking game, lack of effort at times, Leuluai playing at 7 when he's never, ever, ever a Scrum Half.

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Praise - Mossop, Lima and Farrell all had decent games. We showed in glimpses that we're willing to play a bit of rugby.

Grumble - We looked really rusty and short of match practice. I'd put this down to too few preseason games for our first team.

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Praise - Farrell's contribution.

Grumble - Pre-season was obviously a completely mishandled as the players looked unfit and not used to playing as a team.

The players outside Finch are just not smart enough to make something of the passes he puts away. He is on a different level to the rest of the outside backs.

Pat looks to have lost too much pace to carry on as a winger for much longer (unless improved match fitness gains him a couple of yards).

The new signings are simply not as good as the players that have left.

Kicking game would shame an amateur side.

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Positives:
Lima, Mossop and Hansen ran very well. Harrison Hansen really has kicked on in these last few years. Liam Farrell runs some excellent lines too - the only forward to come on with any impact. Gaz Hock proved a handful on occasions too.

When Leuluai moved to hooker we looked a different side. TL must play at hooker!

When we did execute our plays, I thought we troubled Huddersfield and we scored with no-one laying a finger on any of our players.

Negatives:
Forwards coming off the bench - Flower/Lauaki/Tuson - didn't have much impact on the game at all. Tuson to be fair didn't have much time on the field, but they struggled for me. Looking forward to the return of Prescott/Fielden.

Mike McIlorum. Not convinced this lad is up to it. He just does not offer enough in attack. We looked a different side when Leuluai moved to hooker.

Kicking game. Leuluai cannot kick. His best position is without doubt at hooker. I wouldn't move Lockers out from 13, instead I would give Powell/Mellor a go. I accept they're inexperienced, but around Sam Tomkins, Brett Finch, Thomas Leuluai and Sean O'loughlin they'll have a top quality/world class 1, 6, 9 and 13 for support. Isn't Sam Powell's main strength his kicking game? He'll be getting a game sooner or later.

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Praise
- Faz
- Mossop and Lima doing the work of 4 props because they didn't get any help yesterday (Fielden and Prescott can't come back soon enough)

Grumble
- The worst kicking game in SL by some distance, calling it appalling would be giving it far too much praise. The Lamb and Flag 2nd XIII would have been embarrassed.
- We've got the slowest three-quarter partnership in SL on our left hand side.
- The huge gaps left up the middle for Shudds to exploit, and from which they scored all their tries.
- The fact Shudds wanted it more.

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Praise: - Liam Farrell, always looks like he's got a break in him, deceptively quick as well. Should always make the bench ahead of Flower/Tuson when Prescott & Fielden are back.
Hansen was good as well, ran hard, looks like he might have put a bit of size on.

Grumble:- Kicking game, shambolic. Brough won Hudds the game by pinning us back.
We look slow and laboured with McIlorum at 9. Yes he's rock solid in defence but we need more going forward in such a key position(Roby, Monaghan). If he's playing 50/60 minutes every week we're gonna struggle to break the better sides down.

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Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy " Grumble - The fact Shudds wanted it more.'"


And that's the worst part of it all - no Wigan side should ever be guilty of that.

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Praise: the forwards, mostly. And the attendance - over 16k home supporters (plus maybe 500 Giants fans?) is a good sign (hope the performance didn't put off the "floaters" for future games)

Grumble: the lack of a kicking game, and the midfield defence.

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Praise - Hock was great in attack at times. Lima was better than last year. Farrell looks like he did in 2010. The new boys went ok.

Grumble - No kicking game. In 2011 we played a slightly worse version of what we did in 2010. Now in 2012 we are playing a slightly worse version of what we did in 2011. We are far too predictable in attack. We don't move the ball half as quick as we used to in 2010, this is a grumble from last year as well.

Wane has said he wants the players bigger and faster and more skillfull, I don't think that really works. It showed at the game. We were not building pressure like we used to. We need a massive improvement.

We havn't lost 2 in a row during a season since 2009 when we got beat by saints away through a late Eastmond try and then got beat by Wire in the cup semi a week later. I am proud of that record. We need to improve bigtime if we are to beat Leeds next week.

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