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He just isnt. Let sam replace Deacon, move richards to full back (He's not fast enough for a winger after his op.) and bring in a new winger.

How many times has sam changed the game with his attacking? Half the game he passes to richards to run it back anyway, It's a complete waste of talent and i hope the new coach can see what is obvious. Sam and finch with tommy replacing micky or subbing or even find him a new position.

It's the ONLY downside to madges spell at wigan for me. I'd love to keep madge forever but Sam is not a full back. That is all.

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Quote: WQrriors "He just isnt. Let sam replace Deacon, move richards to full back (He's not fast enough for a winger after his op.) and bring in a new winger.

How many times has sam changed the game with his attacking? Half the game he passes to richards to run it back anyway, It's a complete waste of talent and i hope the new coach can see what is obvious. Sam and finch with tommy replacing micky or subbing or even find him a new position.

It's the ONLY downside to madges spell at wigan for me. I'd love to keep madge forever but Sam is not a full back. That is all.'"


What about a centre as well.

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agree... but losing gleesons strength + expereince was a big loss for us i think. His experience and performance in last years grand final said alot to me.

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Absolute rubbish. Sam is not only a fullback, he is easily the best in the league. I was expecting knee jerk reactions after tonight but this is ridiculous. He clearly wasnt fit and hasnt been for a few weeks now. Utilsing a fast, creative player at fullback is the way forward, as you can see from all the top FBs in Australia. We need a 6 to play alongside Finch or a hooker to spell with McIlorum while Tommy plays 7. Sam Tomkins will be Wigan and England fullback for the forseeable.

Richards doesnt have the hands or creative thinking to be a fullback in our system.

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Right on queue; the squabbling

Waney will decide what's best.
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Sam hasn't looked fully fit for a while now - he's looking to avoid taking the ball up and he wasnt doing that earlier in the season - i actually think he has improved as a full back with his defensive work this season.

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People need to accept that there wasnt enough in the tank this year for 2 final appearances. Our squad obviously needs strengthening in places to replace those leaving but some of the stuff being posted is simply nonsense. I'm not bickering by the way, just some opinions (and I am aware everyone is entitled to their own) really annoy me. Sam is dream team fullback this year, top tryscorer, writers player of the year and on the shortlist for MOS. Changing Sam's position is not what we should be looking at.

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Quote Warrior Craig ! He clearly wasnt fit and hasnt been for a few weeks now.
Then Wy the fk did you play him? excuse for being wupped ifu ask me. a014.gif a014.gif a014.gif

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Quote Warrior Craig ! He clearly wasnt fit and hasnt been for a few weeks now.
Then Wy the fk did you play him? excuse for being wupped ifu ask me. a014.gif a014.gif a014.gif

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Sam is the best full-back in superleague and the world. Simple.

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Quote: TruffleSniffer "Quote Warrior Craig ! He clearly wasnt fit and hasnt been for a few weeks now.
Then Wy the fk did you play him? excuse for being wupped ifu ask me.
Definitely not. Beaten by the better team on the night. He was clearly limping at times tonght and he hasnt been anywhere near his best since Wembley.

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Sam isnt a fullback - possibly, replace him with Pat - no chance!

Richards needs to stay on the wing!

Sam clearly has been playing hurt, and i think its obvious that all the hype and attention he has been getting, especially since Wembley has affected him. He will be a better player long term for it. Hopefully that is at Wigan!

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Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "He clearly wasnt fit and hasnt been for a few weeks now. '"

Last few games (Saints, Cats and Saints again) I've seen him holding his shoulder, arm and doing a fair bit of limping at various stages of a game. It may just be wear an tear of a long season.

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Don't know why everyone is so stupid. Sam should be playing at prop icon_confused.gif

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Doesn't look fit to me at present.

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