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Sad to see him have such little impact on the game in a positive manner. Should we have gone with Farrell or Cross instead?

On a brighter note, Coley and Lima were formidable in that first period and although I've been a critic of Lima getting bounced around too easily, he's starting to use his feet and get the extra yards.

I'm fed up of hearing about Westwood as being international class too, he's a cheap shot 3rd man in merchant who got bullied today in the right way by good defence and aggressive but fair manner.

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He looked a slight liability in defense as soon as he came on Warrington started their dominant spell I don't think their two were related just bad timing for Hock.

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I can't believe we didn't play Cross after his performance last week!

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Quote: DannyT "Sad to see him have such little impact on the game in a positive manner. Should we have gone with Farrell or Cross instead?

On a brighter note, Coley and Lima were formidable in that first period and although I've been a critic of Lima getting bounced around too easily, he's starting to use his feet and get the extra yards.

I'm fed up of hearing about Westwood as being international class too, he's a cheap shot 3rd man in merchant who got bullied today in the right way by good defence and aggressive but fair manner.'"



Completely agree! Coley was superb in the first 20 mins, great try too. Lima has been immense for the latter part of the season

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I think scoring that hat-trick last week did him no favours - he made himself undroppable for a game which he was nowhere near ready for. The game passed him by completely in defence.

Lima was sensational.

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perhaps he just wasn't up to a game of this speed yet, he will be fine once he gets back to full match fitness. have to say hansen was immense today, and once he went off we started to miss tackles, his work rate was first class.

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Quote: TrentBarrett "He looked a slight liability in defense as soon as he came on Warrington started their dominant spell I don't think their two were related just bad timing for Hock.'"


Back to his usual self i see, worth every penny of his super duper contract

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He will replace Hoffman next year. On that side he is awesome, hope today made Madge realise this, spelling him and Hoffman on that right side will kill teams!!

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Am a massive fan normally but he was absent (literally) today

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Hock usually plays left-side defence. Today he was brought on the right hand side of the defence.

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He came on at the wrong time in my opinion. Wire were getting back into the game and gaining a lot of momentum. The defence was beginning to tire and a lot of players were letting things slip. It's not the ideal time to bring on a new player, especially one like Hock whose defence is not his strong point. In the end both Hoffman and Hansen were playing so well that it made no sense to use Hock. Defence was massively important in that game and with Hansen putting in some big tackles and some crucial ones too it would have been pointless to take him off.
Had Wire been ahead towards the end of the game I think Hock might have been brought back on, but today was not the sort of game for a player who is still quite clearly not fully match fit.

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He personally didn't do alot wrong but we just lost our structure on that side when Hansen went off. We won the game 44-4 in the time that Hansen was on the field and whilst that obviously wasn't down to just him he had a massive impact on the game.

Hock will get better and better the more he plays not only in terms of fitness but also in terms of getting to know the other lads.

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I assumed he'd picked up an injury when he didn't come back on, but he seemed to be walking OK when he came over at the end.

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He's a left side 2nd rower and I do think it makes a big difference. He'll only get the chance to play there when Hoffman leaves.

Having said that, I thought the pace of the game was a bit much for him today. Understandably.

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Quote: Geoff "I assumed he'd picked up an injury when he didn't come back on, but he seemed to be walking OK when he came over at the end.'"


Nowt up with him, he just couldn't hack the pace.

Not sure who could after 2 years out though. He'll be much better come the play offs.

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