Can't help but feel like this...

Yes we will learn from it, and yes we will bounce back next week (I have no doubt, we alwaysdo under Maguire) but we can't carry on doing this like we did last season, it cost us in the challenge cup last year and in the first play-off game, we need to sort this out.

We should have seen that game out tonight and run away with it and nilled them, instead we come away with a point.

Riddell was badly missed, I now worry we will struggle this way in alot of games.
Fielden was missed because Prescott and Tomkins both had stinkers in the pack so we lacked punch.
Pat and Roberts were missed because I think they both would have finished the chances Charnley had.

I would love to see us do more of what we did at Hull last season, NO MERCY!

On a side note I do believe the ref played his part, saints had no chance of getting down the field untill se started getting hammered.

we looked tired, lethagic, lazy. should have won very easily, saints were terrible.

never seen sam fall over so much either, wear some decent boots lad

We just haven't learned from last season in how to finish a game off when you get into a commanding lead. I feel more confident when the game is close at halftime rather than being 10+ infront. MM need to sort this out or the psychologist that we employ needs to work on it.

Steady guys.... First game.... Lets not look to the negatives.... We have to realise that everybody will be fired up against us, and we have had some personnel changes. We have a terrific team and an excellent squad. Looking forward, we are good for the next 5 years with the youngsters we have those coming through. Can our rivals say this? Nahh. I would recommend you all enjoy this time and watch our rivals squirm. The future is bright, the future is cherry and white...

I agree with the post above but we shouldnt have let them get a draw yesterday leading 16-0 no side should lose but we got to get 2 points from the bulls next week im sure MM will drill it in them this week to not to drop off tackles, we didnt see much of the ball in the last 15 minuites which helped saints score them 3 tries.

Agreed TWTD but this will have a good outcome, MM and SW have something to beat them with this week.

i enjoyed the game and was disapointed not to come away with 2 points. It could have been worse , that eastmond drop goal could have gone over . All in all lots of positives come from the game and also a few negatives. Lots to work on and we have the whole of the season to do it. Sharing the spoils with what i consider to be our main rivals this season isnt too bad a result. Also to top my day warrington got stuffed ha ha .......

The kick through to the corner that Eastmond first spilled then Sam then picked up by another Saints player proved crucial. It was right in front of usbut the touch judge was 10 yards behind the play so literally decided "benefit of doubt". We should have fed the 10 yard scrum, and having just gone 16-0 up a few moments earlier, a score then would have killed game.

Coupled with the Eastmond finger tap which led to Sam supposedly knocking on proved extremely crucial decisions.

I havent seen the game since being there so I am sure there'll be counter arguments against what I saw.

have to agree with the first post on here -missed Riddell & Fielden - Pat Richards and Roberts would of had the game sewn up after 40 mins - Charnley just didn't have the finishing touch they have - Joel Tomkins and Prescott in that last fifteen minutes placed Wigan into a self destruct mode, you cannot give Saints a sniff of victory because they always take it to the last second of the game - think we were very lucky to come away with 1 point. Wigan seemed to shut up shop after 60 mins - also having 4 forwards on the bench didn't really help.
Positives and negatives from the game - looked awsome for the latter 30 mins of the first half, Hoffman good debut, Lima thought average performance but faster and lighter than Feka was. Negatives - Defence good but dropped off for the last quarter - having four forwards on the bench, we need two or three good utility players on the subs bench -

Yeh was right in front of that i cant see how they missed eastmond getting it then a player in front oh him having it

Totally agree with you from the St Helens viewpoint a point against the champions is great and shows we are still competitive this season. Relieved Sam Tomkins drop goal missed and delighted the wire lost... respect to Wigan!

Not totally disheartened from a Wigan perspective. I thought we had to defend our line rigorously during the opening encounters and did extremely well in keeping Saints at bay and then getting points on the board ourselves. Unfortunately fatigue kicked in in the second half and we let in some lazy tries and gave away too many penalties but as the season wears on I think we'll improve on this aspect and become a much better side.

Like I said in my report, we cut saints up out wide a few times - Saints never really did that to us and looked too heavily reliant on the forward pack. So I'm happy overall.

Blowing a 16 point lead is definitely a point lost - you can't look at it any other way. The sooner Finch, Richards and Fielden get back the better.

To be honest at the end i didnt know whether to be gutted or relieved.