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[color=#FF0000:1fnfdzuc]Wigan vs Leeds finals aggregate score. Wigan 178 - 64 Leeds Wigan wins - 6 Leeds wins - 0[/color:1fnfdzuc] I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubblegum. Don't you struggle. Don't you fight. Don't you worry, cause it's your turn tonight! Esse quam videri.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45658.jpg





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[quote="WireWonder":z7op9sh9] Well you know that trophy that Wigan and St Helens have supposidly won more than anyone? It's currently gleaming in the Warrington boardroom. And has been for 2 years and will be for a long time yet [/quote:z7op9sh9][b:z7op9sh9]2011 Challenge Cup Winners - [u:z7op9sh9]WIGAN[/u:z7op9sh9][/b:z7op9sh9] [quote="Lippy":z7op9sh9]As for Warrior Lou, she was last seen running after Phelps.[/quote:z7op9sh9] [quote="Saint94":z7op9sh9]FIOS.......... Every team is in your feckin shadow....we all know.[/quote:z7op9sh9]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_4676.jpg



good article, but it says Sam Tomkins scored the try of the season against Warrington. surely they mean Huddersfield?
still, at least its nice to see some players getting the recognition they deserve after this year!!

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It is a good read, but the sad thing is that he's probably right.

It's difficult to see two Aussies getting the vote on the trot, when the main other contender this year is a British prop who tends to epitomise the bulldog spirit.

Previously I'd have thought Richards was indeed part of Shaun Wane's jokey "shortlist of one", but now I suspect that Morley will win it (though not as much as I would if Stevo and his quango of Yorkshire journos had still been choosing).

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[color=#000000:1qsyq8gi]Wigan Warriors 2010:[/color:1qsyq8gi] [color=red:1qsyq8gi]Super League Champions League Leaders Under 20's Champions Club of The Year Floodlit 9's Winners Pat Richards: Man Of Steel Sam Tomkins: Young Player of the Year Michael Maguire: Coach of the Year[/color:1qsyq8gi] [quote="Wire_91":1qsyq8gi]its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are[/quote:1qsyq8gi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_26076.jpg



Could Sam be the first player to get in the dream team in two different positions? icon_biggrin.gif

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I'll be amazed if Pat doesn't win MoS this year. I know it's not always about points scored, but every time I've seen him play he has been at a consistently high level. Brilliant player.

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I think if Pat can break Farrel's record on Friday, and the club and media in general make a big enough song and dance about it. It'll push Richards to the forefront of everyone's minds before the crucial vote next week.

For me it's vital Pat breaks the record, otherwise I feel Morley will just edge it.

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Games as big as Grand Finals define individuals and clubs. Remember, we only rent these journeys. In my time I had Pat Richard's shirt. Ellery Hanley had Sean O'Loughlin's jersey. Sam Tomkins is wearing Radders' number one jersey. Andy Coley is wearing Shaun Wayne's jersey. You have to make a mark in these shirts before you hand it down to someone else. Hand it back. So be aware for 80 minutes that you are not only playing, but you are also writing history and creating legacy. How many people actually write history - not many? A big stage demands big players…..INSPIRE YOUR TEAM MATES. Martin Offiah MBE, pre-Grand Final Speech, 2nd October 2010.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33718.jpg



Good article, but lost ALL cedibility when later naming Roby at 9 in the Guardian dream team.................what a joke.

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Quote: TheSurgeon "Good article, but lost ALL cedibility when later naming Roby at 9 in the Guardian dream team.................what a joke.'"


Why? He's been fantastic this year. Monaghan has also been quality, close between the two of them imo.

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Personally, the whole MoS process lost all credibility the season that Barrett didn't get it.

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Quote: TheSurgeon "Good article, but lost ALL cedibility when later naming Roby at 9 in the Guardian dream team.................what a joke.'"


How is it? James Roby has been awesome this year for Stains. One of their most consistent performers.

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Games as big as Grand Finals define individuals and clubs. Remember, we only rent these journeys. In my time I had Pat Richard's shirt. Ellery Hanley had Sean O'Loughlin's jersey. Sam Tomkins is wearing Radders' number one jersey. Andy Coley is wearing Shaun Wayne's jersey. You have to make a mark in these shirts before you hand it down to someone else. Hand it back. So be aware for 80 minutes that you are not only playing, but you are also writing history and creating legacy. How many people actually write history - not many? A big stage demands big players…..INSPIRE YOUR TEAM MATES. Martin Offiah MBE, pre-Grand Final Speech, 2nd October 2010.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33718.jpg



Quote: cadoo "How is it? James Roby has been awesome this year for Stains. One of their most consistent performers.'"


The dream team No.9 is about being the best No.9 all season, a fact that Roby has not been. He may well have been a consistent performer for stains, but not the best in the league.

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Quote: TheSurgeon "The dream team No.9 is about being the best No.9 all season, a fact that Roby has not been. He may well have been a consistent performer for stains, but not the best in the league.'"


None of the above is fact. It's just your opinion. The only player who comes close is Michael Monaghan, but his defence is too shabby IMO to be in the Dream Team at nine so James Roby just edges it.

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Man of Steel is the player who "makes the greatest impact on a Super League season" Recently this has turned into more of a player of year award and now is players player of the year award really. Roby has played well but made the greatest impact? I doubt it. Menzies has made an impact on the game here but probably more last season than this. Graham has made an impact making nearly 4000 metres again fair play. Morley has been outstanding again and has made impact in vital games. Richards has been a machine this season. Top Try scorer, top goal scorer, top points scorer 3rd in metres gained. Has scored some truly brilliant tries. BUT if you follow the true nature of the award then has anyone had a bigger impact on the game this season than Sam Tomkins? Established himself as one of the best 6's in the game and then some almost mercurial games at FB towards the end of the season.

My personal choice would eb Richards but if people stuck to the "mantra" of the award then Tomkins must be up there.

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Anyone else see this comment beneath that article "If Orford had stayed fit he'd have won it head and shoulders" icon_eek.gif

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Quote: TheSurgeon "Good article, but lost ALL cedibility when later naming Roby at 9 in the Guardian dream team.................what a joke.'"


There are a few odd choices in there. I don't think Tommy should be anywhere near, nor should Wellens or Brown.

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