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| Steve Ganson obviously thought that there was something wrong with the Ablett tackle as he put it on report.
What should happen is this.
If the player is put on report then it should be an automatic 10 minute sin bin. In that period the match commissioner and / or video referee reviews the incident.
If they decide that it warrants a sending off then after the ten minute period the player is shown a red card and is sent off for the remainder of the match.
If they are unsure or decide it is not worthy of a sending off then the player is free to return after the ten minutes have elapsed.
The match review panel, would still review the incident on Monday as normal.
It's so simple, can anyone see any reasons why it wouldn't work.
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| Don`t talk sense it will never happen.
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| Not all games would have the technology for an on the spot review?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Steve Ganson obviously thought that there was something wrong with the Ablett tackle as he put it on report.
What should happen is this.
If the player is put on report then it should be an automatic 10 minute sin bin. In that period the match commissioner and / or video referee reviews the incident.
If they decide that it warrants a sending off then after the ten minute period the player is shown a red card and is sent off for the remainder of the match.
If they are unsure or decide it is not worthy of a sending off then the player is free to return after the ten minutes have elapsed.
The match review panel, would still review the incident on Monday as normal.
It's so simple, can anyone see any reasons why it wouldn't work.'"
What happens if the player is deemed to have accidently commited an offence? or if the incident wasn't as bad as it first appeared? Then they would be sin binned for nothing! I thought that was why we have the report system because the ref doesn't have sufficient information to make a judgement either way.
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| Quote: Panda Antics "Not all games would have the technology for an on the spot review?'"
All games have cameras.
We watch the half time highlights under the West Stand at every game.
At present the match review panel judge on one camera for the majority of games.
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| Quote: hydejr1986 "What happens if the player is deemed to have accidently commited an offence? or if the incident wasn't as bad as it first appeared? Then they would be sin binned for nothing! I thought that was why we have the report system because the ref doesn't have sufficient information to make a judgement either way.'"
He comes back on after 10 minutes. The referee must have judged that it was a major problem to put it on report.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "He comes back on after 10 minutes. The referee must have judged that it was a major problem to put it on report.'"
What about a fight that is put on report?
Does the referee all 26 players involved in a mass brawl?
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| The Ablett foul was clearly visible on immediate replay, and the fourth ref could easily have given Ganson the information to call the proper decision in good time.
We have video replays for tries, why not other incidents?
It would have saved the time and expense of Red Hall, and would have given the right decision on the day.
In the same way, Coley would not have been sent off if Ganson had asked for a video decision on the 'late' tackle.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "All games have cameras.
We watch the half time highlights under the West Stand at every game.
At present the match review panel judge on one camera for the majority of games.'"
I think all coaches have some kind of technology now that allows them to instantly review things. You could see (I think it was) Daryl Powell using it when their was a sky match the other week and it didn't look to me like he was using the actual sky footage to do it.
To be honest the video referee should have done something about it and to me you have to question why Bentham offered advice when Coley was sent off in France four weeks previous (which was clearly heard on the tv coverage) but not this time.
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| Quote: Panda Antics "What about a fight that is put on report?
Does the referee all 26 players involved in a mass brawl?'"
According to that Leeds muppet though, defences would then improve on either side as they have less men. FACT.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "He comes back on after 10 minutes. The referee must have judged that it was a major problem to put it on report.'"
If a player commits a serious offence tho then the ref will sin bin or send off a player but if the ref is unsure about it or didn't see it then they put it on report. Well that is my understanding. Sometimes a player is put on report but then after review it is deemed no serious offence was commited. For example if someone is tackled head high but it was a accidental shot or a grab etc. In this case a penalty would be awarded but there is no need to sin bin the player. So if you send them for a video review then they are being penalised unfairly if that makes sense.
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| 2 refs anyone?
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| Quote: post "2 refs anyone?
Tis what it needs, but there's a shortage of good refs when we only need 1 in a match.
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| Good point but just to much to ask IMO
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| What was Bentham's role in all this?
A few years ago, as video ref at the DW he had no hesitation in recommending to the ref that McIlorum deseved a red card for his high shot on Ade Garndner.
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