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Former Warrington captian Kevin Ashcroft speaking to MEN and he believes that Warrinton vs Wigan is a bigger derby than Wigan Vs Saints. I think Friday's game is possibly bigger game due to being 1st vs 2nd but a better derby hmmm
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Former Warrington captian Kevin Ashcroft speaking to MEN and he believes that Warrinton vs Wigan is a bigger derby than Wigan Vs Saints. I think Friday's game is possibly bigger game due to being 1st vs 2nd but a better derby hmmm
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Not a cat in hell's chance!
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For the last time NO!
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It feels like it this year, but that's only because suddenly Wigan and Warrington are both the real deal.
Not since the late 1980s have we had a situation where Wigan and Warrington were both at the top of the table, and good for it.
I still think that, generally speaking, Wigan v Saints is a bigger derby.
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Saint94 wrote "Every team is in your feckin shadow....we all know." - Amen to that, brother
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| Quote: Kevin Ashcroft ""All the ingredients are there and in place for a great game on Friday. When you consider the amount of playing talent on view, it really is an exciting prospect. The touch-paper just needs lighting.
"This particular game and derby is bigger than a Wigan-Saints match. There is so much riding on the outcome. We can sit back and watch two great teams."'"
Nowhere in there does he claim this to be the biggest derby.
He simply states that because so much depends on the outcome, THIS MATCH (i.e. *Not* every Wigan v Wire match) is bigger than your average Wigan v Saints Derby.
He is comparing it to a derby, not claiming it as one. |
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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This match is bigger. In terms of the bigger derby, wire are nowhere really.
Still the Wigan v Wire derby is now one of the biggest IMO.
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[quote="Wire_91":1qsyq8gi]its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are[/quote:1qsyq8gi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_26076.jpg |
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Wire v Wigan on the pitch is bigger than Leeds V Bradford, Hull V Hull KR, Cas V Wakefield just for entertainment value alone, but never will it beat the passion and the excitement of Saints V Wigan. It was on the VT that the term 'derby' was first used for a Wigan Vs St Helens match - why we never use this when promoting the games ill never know!
Edit: This is what was posted: "The term 'derby' in sport actually comes from the Wigan-Saints derby as Lord Derby used to arrange the game in victorian times (i think). Why RL and the two clubs don't advertise this I don't know, someone as rich as Lord Derby would be a tremendous asset for RL."
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Wire are our third most important derby team. However, this particular game is massive.
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Dei Morti Viventi "Wire are our third most important derby team. However, this particular game is massive.'"
If you are thinking Leigh is big then think again. Untill they get back in super league and can compete with us Leigh is merely a bus stop. |
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As is now posted on the club website in the late 1940s until about 1954 the Wigan / wire match was much bigger than the Saints match. I lived in Golborne and went to school in Newton and the rivalry between wigan and warrington fans was much more intense than with saints fans
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[color=#FF4000:3htgpm5r][quote:3htgpm5r]I read that Leeds-Bradford is an airport and that Wigan-St Helens is a rivalry. It's one I can't wait for[/quote:3htgpm5r]
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[quote:3htgpm5r]After all, rugby league has a history of ideas that appear madcap at first but are taken up elsewhere, usually by rugby union[/quote:3htgpm5r]
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Wire fans, like Leeds fans, are fickle as feck, and mostly glory supporters.
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Absolutly not. This year its a huge game because of League position, and while I hate Wire at the moment, Saints are our biggest rivals imo.
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Massive game tomoz no doubt, but NOTHING is bigger than Wigan/Saints
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I kind of get where he's coming from with this. There was a time in the late 80's/early 90's when Wigan/Widnes seemed a bigger fixture (and derby I suppose) than Wigan/Saints
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In terms of this season it's our biggest match so far but nothing will ever mean more to Wigan fans them from t'other side of billinge hill. Anyone who says otherwise shouldn't call themselves a Wigan fan
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Not a chance.
Wigan v Leigh is a bigger derby.
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