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[color=#FF4000:3htgpm5r][quote:3htgpm5r]I read that Leeds-Bradford is an airport and that Wigan-St Helens is a rivalry. It's one I can't wait for[/quote:3htgpm5r] Ryan Hoffman [quote:3htgpm5r]After all, rugby league has a history of ideas that appear madcap at first but are taken up elsewhere, usually by rugby union[/quote:3htgpm5r] Christopher Irvine - The Times [quote:3htgpm5r] Wire fans, like Leeds fans, are fickle as feck, and mostly glory supporters. [/quote:3htgpm5r] Sherbert Dip - Leeds Fan [quote:3htgpm5r]I will never forget that atmosphere at Knowsley Road on Good Friday when the final hooter sounded. On behalf of all the fellas thank you so much for being the greatest fans in the world.[/quote:3htgpm5r] Phil Bailey[/color:3htgpm5r]:



rlhttp://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/wolves/wolvesnews/5021216.Smith_blasts_video_referees/?ref

I thought all the decisions where the right ones. I thought King tackling Gleeson was 50/50 to be honest, King sort of sheparded Glees into that position, when Glees was only supporting Roberts (as would be expected) Solomona's decision was bang on, he clearly dropped it, and Solomona also definatly knocked on to rule out Briers(??) effort.

Still, take it away Tony.

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He's not said he thinks the decisions are wrong has he? he's said he doesn't like VR's which he has stated before.

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Quote: Batesy "rlhttp://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/wolves/wolvesnews/5021216.Smith_blasts_video_referees/?ref

I thought all the decisions where the right ones. I thought King tackling Gleeson was 50/50 to be honest, King sort of sheparded Glees into that position, when Glees was only supporting Roberts (as would be expected) Solomona's decision was bang on, he clearly dropped it, and Solomona also definatly knocked on to rule out Briers(??) effort.

Still, take it away Tony.'"



Wait til they win a game thanks to the video ref, then he will change his tune.

Slightly over the top comments for me, the decissions were right from the video ref so that's that.

To be fair to the Wolves they didn't really get the luck on the night but they were not cheated out of anything.

As he says, if they go like that each week, they will be there abouts at the end of the season.

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*Sigh* What does he want to do? Let the video ref give tries that clearly aren't?

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can't say that I disagree !!!

ignoring Saturdays match (that was a tremendous game by both sides and so far this season a rugby great) there never seems to be confidence by the match official to either award or disallow a try; the technology is there to use but we are now in the realms of frame-by-frame analysis looking at every aspect why a try should be disallowed rather than why the try should not be awarded

take Monaghan's disallowed try; how many instances have there been in the past (Warrington included) where no more than a brush of the little finger has been deemed sufficient to award a try; suddenly we have an alternate set of rules to disallow a try for insufficient downward pressure or ball control; I bet that for any non-televised match Monaghan's (and come to that most likely Solomona's) try would have been awarded

it's the inconsistency of refereeing and video ref decisions that are hardest to understand

though Wigan just about edged the match; if I had to "moan moan moan moan" however, I would say the amount of holding down by Wigan is nonsense but again so long as the referee's do not penalise this will be continued

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Quote: Wire_85 "He's not said he thinks the decisions are wrong has he? he's said he doesn't like VR's which he has stated before.'"


So what is he actaully saying then?

That he'd like the Roberts try to be disallowed & the Solomona one given despite the VR making the correct decision in both?


He finds the Video Ref Boring and he wants them done away with?
I'll tell you what is "Boring!", Tony Smith! icon_rolleyes.gif Maybe we could do away with Him! icon_wink.gif

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Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock "I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count" [quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote] Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!" I thanked him and went on my Merry way! RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015! "The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth." Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg



Quote: orford_addict "can't say that I disagree !!!

ignoring Saturdays match (that was a tremendous game by both sides and so far this season a rugby great) there never seems to be confidence by the match official to either award or disallow a try; the technology is there to use but we are now in the realms of frame-by-frame analysis looking at every aspect why a try should be disallowed rather than why the try should not be awarded

take Monaghan's disallowed try; how many instances have there been in the past (Warrington included) where no more than a brush of the little finger has been deemed sufficient to award a try; suddenly we have an alternate set of rules to disallow a try for insufficient downward pressure or ball control; I bet that for any non-televised match Monaghan's (and come to that most likely Solomona's) try would have been awarded

it's the inconsistency of refereeing and video ref decisions that are hardest to understand

though Wigan just about edged the match; if I had to "moan moan moan moan" however, I would say the amount of holding down by Wigan is nonsense but again so long as the referee's do not penalise this will be continued'"


Wire fan thinks Tony Smith is right about Everyhting Shocker! icon_eek.gif

As for Wigan's holding Down!
I think you've all been reading Richies Tweeter a bit too much me thinks! icon_rolleyes.gif
I said last week that all he was doing was mischieving to try & con the refs into giving more penalties, it nearly worked.

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Quote: Jukesays "So what is he actaully saying then?

That he'd like the Roberts try to be disallowed & the Solomona one given despite the VR making the correct decision in both?


He finds the Video Ref Boring and he wants them done away with?
I'll tell you what is "Boring!", Tony Smith!
Think he just wants the ref and his assistants to make the decision and so the flow of the game isn't taken away all the time, there was a few near me at the match who were getting fed up with it taking so long for Wigan tries and just wanted someone to make a call on it for or against without 5 mins of waiting.

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Quote: Jukesays "So what is he actaully saying then?

That he'd like the Roberts try to be disallowed & the Solomona one given despite the VR making the correct decision in both?


He finds the Video Ref Boring and he wants them done away with?
I'll tell you what is "Boring!", Tony Smith!
Seconded.

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Quote: Jukesays "Wire fan thinks Tony Smith is right about Everyhting Shocker!
Wigan were holding down in the first half alot I don't think they could live with the pace we wanted to play at IMO.

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Quote: Wire_85 "Think he just wants the ref and his assistants to make the decision and so the flow of the game isn't taken away all the time, there was a few near me at the match who were getting fed up with it taking so long for Wigan tries and just wanted someone to make a call on it for or against without 5 mins of waiting.'"


But if they had have been allowed by the Ref with no VR in place and "Would have/Should have" been disallowed if there was a Video Ref and it cost him the game then what would "they" & Tony Smith be thinking then?

5 x tries went to the VR, 5 Correct decisions were reached.

With that kind of success rate it's hardly an argument for getting rid of it just because he finds it "Boring". icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Wire_85 "Wigan were holding down in the first half alot I don't think they could live with the pace we wanted to play at IMO.'"


Massive Fail! icon_lol.gif

Shame you lot aren't fit enough to keep that pace up for more than 50 mins then isn't it! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Jukesays "But if they had have been allowed by the Ref with no VR in place and "Would have/Should have" been disallowed if there was a Video Ref and it cost him the game then what would "they" & Tony Smith be thinking then?

5 x tries went to the VR, 5 Correct decisions were reached.

With that kind of success rate it's hardly an argument for getting rid of it just because he finds it "Boring".
Think its more the time taken rather then anything else.

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Quote: Wire_85 "Think he just wants the ref and his assistants to make the decision and so the flow of the game isn't taken away all the time, there was a few near me at the match who were getting fed up with it taking so long for Wigan tries and just wanted someone to make a call on it for or against without 5 mins of waiting.'"


We have the technology so why not use it? Certain sections of the football media have been crying out for video technology for eons, but here we are with the technology to hand and people are moaning about it. Yes maybe if Sky hadn't been there some of those decisions may have gone the other way, but I for one like the VRs and long may they stay, ideally for every SL game.

ps, one piece of info Mr Smith may have overlooked is he does know that the VR was Bentham doesn't he? i.e Warrington's Phil bentham?

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